Inside Beijing’s Darkest State Crime—And Those Fighting to Expose It | Raymond Zhang
American Thought Leaders
The Epoch Times
4.9 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 7 February 2026
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Summary
In 2015, a whistleblower came forward to The Epoch Times to share an unthinkable story.
Years before, while a resident doctor at one of China’s largest military hospitals, he was summoned one day with other doctors for a “secret military mission.” They were brought before a 17-year-old young soldier—bound so tightly that the ropes cut into his flesh—and ordered to pin the boy down and extract his kidneys and eyes.
The young soldier had gotten on the wrong side of his army supervisor, and while imprisoned in military jail, military command discovered that he was a blood and tissue match with a high-ranking superior in need of an organ transplant.
“When I looked at him, I saw fear in his eyes. His eyelids were moving. He was alive,” recounted the whistleblower Dr. George Zheng.
His testimony is featured in the harrowing documentary “State Organs,” directed by Peabody Award-winning filmmaker Raymond Zhang.
A powerful film that exposes the brutal reality of China’s forced organ harvesting industry, the documentary follows two families’ decades-long search for their disappeared loved ones. It’s a story of tragedy and brutal inhumanity, but also faith and redemption.
It seems the film hit such a nerve in Beijing that theaters in Taiwan received threatening letters and even bomb threats ahead of film screenings.
In this special episode, I sat down with Zhang to hear about his incredible journey of making this film and what he uncovered along the way.
“State Organs” is now streaming on Apple TV, Amazon Prime Video, YouTube, etc.
Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
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| 0:00.0 | One doctor asked me to take his eyeballs. |
| 0:06.0 | When I looked at him, I saw fear in his eyes. |
| 0:10.0 | When I looked at him, I saw fear in his eyes. |
| 0:13.0 | His eyelids were moving. |
| 0:16.0 | He was alive. |
| 0:18.0 | The boy killed in this film for his organs was a 17-year-old army soldier. |
| 0:26.6 | In this episode, I sit down with award-winning filmmaker Raymond Zhang, |
| 0:31.6 | the director of state organs, a powerful new film exposing the brutal realities of forced organ harvesting in China. |
| 0:39.3 | My sister loved singing and danced well. |
| 0:43.3 | My sister was kidnapped by police. |
| 0:50.3 | It was finding the original recording of the Yun that inspired me to start the film at the very beginning. |
| 0:59.0 | It's a story of redemption of a surgeon who once participated in these crimes. |
| 1:05.0 | This omnipresent fear and never-ending pressure suddenly vanished. |
| 1:11.6 | He felt like he found a form of redemption. |
| 1:16.6 | It's the powerful journey of a victim's family, from grief to strength. |
| 1:21.6 | When we get to heaven, we will see each other again. |
| 1:26.6 | On the spiritual level, the further you distance yourself from the CCP and the closer |
| 1:35.3 | you are to the divine, the safer and happier your life going to be. |
| 1:41.3 | This is American Thought Leaders, and I Yan Yekjek Kellek. Raymond Chang, such a pleasure to have you on American Thought Leaders. |
| 1:51.0 | Thank you for having me, Yang. So you actually have made three documentaries. Two of them have been |
| 1:57.0 | focused on forced organ harvesting. The first of course was was human harvest. It won the Peabody Award, |
| 2:03.0 | which made it the darling of the Canada Media Fund. And then it also had this incredible reach |
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