Inside Azovstal

Modern War Institute

John Amble

Government, News

4.7 • 798 Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

When Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022, one of its first targets was the city of Mariupol. Despite being outnumbered by—and less well equipped than—their adversaries, Ukrainian defenders held out for three months. As the Russian siege of the city intensified, Ukrainian forces defended a shrinking perimeter with a command post in the Azovstal steel plant. One of those Ukrainian defenders was Sergeant Arseniy Fedosiuk. MWI's John Spencer had the opportunity to speak to him about his experience in Mariupol, and you'll hear part of that discussion in this episode. The full conversation from which this episode is drawn will be released on Friday, July 21, as an episode of the Urban Warfare Project Podcast, which you can find wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss the complete discussion with this phenomenal guest.

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0:00.0	So maybe at 5.4 or 5 o'clock in the morning we were put on alert because actually the war started.
0:11.0	In Murupol, like it was pretty asymmetrical war for us because our enemy had almost everything and we had nothing.
0:19.0	As for me it became obvious that our enemy has total superiority.
0:24.6	It's like superiority in the numbers of personal superiority in numbers of armored vehicles in all ways and means.
0:32.6	Hey, welcome back to the Modern War Institute podcast. I'm John Amble, editorial director at
0:38.7	MWI, and this is a special episode. The MWI podcast is really our flagship podcast, but we also
0:44.6	have several others, one of which is the Urban Warfare Project podcast hosted by John Spencer.
0:50.2	John recently had a terrific opportunity. He got the chance to speak to Arseni Fedesuk, a Ukrainian non-commissioned officer who took
0:57.0	part in the defense of the Azov Steel Factory in Marupo last year.
1:01.0	This episode is essentially a condensed version of a portion of that conversation.
1:06.0	Arceny shares some fascinating details of the battle based on firsthand experience.
1:10.0	He describes the numerical and equipment disadvantage of the battle based on firsthand experience. He describes the numerical
1:11.4	and equipment disadvantage of the Ukrainians, shares his observations on Russian tactics,
1:16.0	and more. I think listeners will really appreciate hearing it, but since it is just a portion of
1:20.5	the longer conversation, I really encourage you to go and find the Urban Warfare Project
1:24.6	podcast. You can get it wherever you're listening to this one, and look out for the episode that will be released on Friday, July 21st. That episode will include
1:31.8	the much longer conversation with this phenomenal guest, and the full discussion is exceptional.
1:37.2	Before we get to the episode, as always, a couple quick notes. First, if you're not yet
1:40.9	subscribed to the MWI podcast, you can find it on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, Tune in, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app.
1:47.2	And second, as always, what you hear in this episode are the views of the participants
1:50.4	and don't represent those of West Point, the Army, or any other agency of the U.S. government.
1:55.5	All right, here's John Spencer with Arseni Fedesuk.
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