Inside AARO: Tim Phillips on UAPs, National Security, & Government Transparency

That UFO Podcast

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🗓️ 17 June 2025

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

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I am joined by former Deputy Director of the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) Timothy Phillips, to discuss:

Tims Career
Assignment to AARO and Initial Impressions
AARO Organizational Structure and Mission
Challenges in UAP Investigations
Working with Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick
Challenges in Proving or Disproving UAP Claims
Investigating Claims and Disinformation
Whistleblowers and Congressional Inquiries
Black Triangles and National Security
Dimensionality and the Supernatural
Future of AARO and Public Reporting
Listener Questions

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Enjoy folks,
Andy

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0:00.0	This is Jim Simovan and you are listening to That UFO podcast.
0:05.0	Hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO podcast.
0:09.0	My name is Andy and today my guest is a senior National Intelligence Service Executive and a US Marine Corps combat veteran.
0:17.0	Over his distinguished career, he's held key roles across the Intel community,
0:22.0	including as a National Intelligence Collection Officer for South Asia at the office of the
0:26.9	Director of National Intelligence, Director of Mission Integration at the National Geospatial
0:31.8	Intelligence Agency, and National Intelligence Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. He was
0:37.3	also formerly the Deputy Director of the All- All Domain Anomely Resolution Office or Arrow,
0:43.0	as you may commonly know it, where he's played a central role in the US government's investigation of UAP.
0:49.0	I'd like to welcome to the podcast, Timothy Phillips.
0:51.4	Tim, welcome.
0:52.8	Well, thank you for having me here today. Thank you for coming on.
0:56.4	That's only a snippet of your background. You've got, what, a 45-year career in the military and
1:02.6	government? Right. On the 5th of July, I was sworn a second lieutenant of Marines in my parents'
1:09.6	living room in Tucson, Arizona. So next month,
1:12.8	it would be 45 years of service. Wow. So that's a, that's a long time to have commit yourself
1:18.2	to anything, let alone service and government. And I'm sure many listeners who are based in the
1:22.5	States will be thanking you for your service. And what I'd love to do, first, Tim, is just get to know a little bit about you and your
1:30.2	background.
1:30.8	If you want to talk around anything you like, some of those roles, some of the basics of what
1:35.2	the jobs were that led you to one day getting involved with Arrow.
1:41.4	Sure.
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