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The Way Out Is In

Inner Space (Episode #98)

The Way Out Is In

Plum Village

Education, Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Self-improvement, Religion & Spirituality, Buddhism

4.91.6K Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2026

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to a new episode of The Way Out Is In: The Zen Art of Living, a podcast series mirroring Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh’s deep teachings of Buddhist philosophy: a simple yet profound methodology for dealing with our suffering, and for creating more happiness and joy in our lives. In this installment, Zen Buddhist monk Brother Phap Huu and leadership coach/journalist Jo Confino discuss the importance of creating inner space and stillness through meditation practices. But what does it actually mean to create more space in our lives? And why is this important, and how do we go about it? The conversation emphasises that the practice of meditation is not just about achieving enlightenment, but about becoming more present, compassionate, and engaged with the world. It touches upon the difficulties of finding space in modern life, the benefits of different meditation techniques, and misconceptions around enlightenment. The hosts also share personal experiences, including insights about how meditation has deepened their practice and allowed them to navigate challenges with greater flexibility and understanding.  The episode ends with a meditation guided by Brother Phap Huu. Co-produced by the Plum Village App:https://plumvillage.app/   And Global Optimism:https://globaloptimism.com/ With support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation:https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/ List of resources Pilgrimage: In the Footsteps of the Buddhahttps://plumvillage.org/event/pilgrimage/in-the-footsteps-of-the-buddha-2 Being with Busyness: Zen Ways to Transform Overwhelm and Burnouthttps://www.parallax.org/product/being-with-busyness/    Calm in the Storm: Zen Ways to Cultivate Stability in an Anxious Worldhttps://www.parallax.org/product/calm-in-the-storm/  Course: Zen and The Art of Saving the Planethttps://plumvillage.org/courses/zen-and-the-art-of-saving-the-planet  Interbeinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbeing   Plum Village Traditionhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plum_Village_Tradition  ‘Resources for Practicing the 16 Exercises of Mindful Breathing’https://plumvillage.app/resources-for-practicing-the-16-exercises-of-mindful-breathing/ ‘Making the App More Inclusive: Introducing the ‘Access to Practice’ Folder’https://plumvillage.app/introducing-the-access-to-practice-folder/Robert Thurmanhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Thurman Mahayanahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahayana  Bodhisattvashttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhisattva  The Way Out Is In: ‘The Three Doors of Liberation (Episode #18)’https://plumvillage.org/podcast/the-three-doors-of-liberation-episode-18  Sister Chan Lang Nghiemhttps://plumvillage.org/people/dharma-teachers/sr-lang-nghiem Quotes “Walking meditation was our teacher’s favorite practice and it was really a life-changing cultivation for him. Because, particularly when we are very emotional – whether that be grief, agony, pain, anger, frustration – it is probably better to be in a state of motion.” “The Buddha has said, What are we mindful of? We are mindful of our suffering. Why do we practice? To liberate ourselves and all beings from suffering. That is the greatest vow of a monk or a nun: to find liberation in oneself and liberation in all.”  “There are so many creations of senses – what we see, what we hear, what we smell, what we taste – to help us cope with our suffering. And when we are suffering, whether that suffering is very petite, a daily concern, or is a generational trauma, we don’t have language for how to be with that suffering. Therefore, we look for a way out – and the world loves giving us a prescription of, ‘If you do this, you will feel that.’” “Sometimes silence is a chance for us to be in touch with deep suffering or deep experiences that our noise has covered up. As a meditator, space gives us the bar

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0:00.0

Dear friends, if you have a deep love for the earth and wish to learn how to bring the energy of mindfulness to your climate response,

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Zen and the art of saving the planet is a seven-week online learning journey,

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where we as a community will learn how to cultivate insight, compassion, community,

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and mindful action in service for our beloved earth.

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Inspired by the timeless wisdom of Zen Master Tignan, this course includes

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damatogs and practices, community sharing groups, and live interactive events with monastic teachers.

0:34.6

I'm looking forward to teaching at these live events together with my

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monastic siblings. We'll learn together for seven weeks from 1st of March, 2026, into our closing

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event on 19th of April. Join us by heading to the website today, plumvillage.org slash

0:52.9

ZAS, that is ZASP, and we look forward to walking on this path

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with you. Thank you very much.

1:01.5

Dear friends, welcome to this latest episode of the podcast The Way Out is In.

1:07.4

The Way Out is in.

1:26.9

I'm Jo Comfino, a leadership coach working at the intersection of personal transformation and systems change.

1:28.8

And I'm Brother Phaphu, a Zen Buddhist monk student of Zen master, Take Your Hand in the Plum Village

1:34.0

tradition.

1:35.0

And today, dear listeners, we are going to be talking about what it means to create more space

1:42.4

in our lives. Why that is important and how do we go about doing that?

1:49.6

The way out to this in.

2:04.8

Hello everyone, I'm Joe Confino.

2:06.2

And I'm Brother Fabu.

2:12.0

So, Brother, we decided today to talk about creating space.

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