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The Rich Roll Podcast

Ingrid Newkirk Is Animal Rights’ Provocateur In Chief

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.812.9K Ratings

🗓️ 4 May 2020

⏱️ 106 minutes

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Summary

A true force of nature, today's guest needs little introduction. Meet Ingrid Newkirk. The original doyenne of animal activism, Ingrid is the legendary and infamous co-founder and president of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, a non-profit she personally shepherded into the largest animal rights organization in the world, currently boasting more than 6.5 million members and supporters. Under Ingrid's stewardship, PETA quite literally put animal welfare on the map. Operating under the principle that animals are not ours to experiment on, eat, wear, use for entertainment, or abuse in any other way, PETA has a storied and often controversial history of exposing countless acts of gruesome and horrifying animal abuse, with it's media-savvy provocateur in chief grabbing headlines and creating significant awareness, policy changes and legal protections along the way. Named a top businessperson of the year by Forbes, Ingrid has been profiled in countless publications -- including twice by The New Yorker -- and has appeared in seemingly every prominent media outlet including the Today Show, The Oprah Winfrey Show, Larry King, Politically Incorrect, Crossfire, Nightline, and 60 Minutes. Irrespective of your opinions about PETA, Ingrid is someone who has dedicated every breath to what she believes in. Combating injustice. Taking action to change what many of us simply want to deny or avoid. Looking suffering straight in the eye. And doing something about it. That level of purpose -- the courage to speak truth to power, tenacity to weather persistent criticism and stay the course for change -- is rare. It's impressive and laudable. Behind it all, there is an undeniable sincerity to Ingrid. A fascinating, complex, and charismatic character, she’s also deeply sensitive. Quite self-aware. And surprisingly funny. Today Ingrid shares her story. Note: This conversation was recorded pre-pandemic on February 18, 2020. Therefore there is no coronavirus discussion. However, I think Ingrid's message is profoundly of the moment given the undeniable role animal agriculture plays in fomenting disease. The visually inclined can watch it all go down on YouTube. And as always, the audio version streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. In this moment of forced repose, my hope is that we reflect on humanity's misguided entitlement to dominion over all things. Our intelligence is not the gauge of the animal kingdom. And our relationship with the living beings with whom we share this imperiled planet is broken. Ingrid is here to recalibrate that relationship. Peace + Plants, Rich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcript

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0:00.0

You shouldn't just be being kind to animals within the context of using them.

0:07.0

They're other nations. They're just like us. We are animals. We need to stop seeing them as hamburgers and handbags and tools for research.

0:17.0

We need to see them as other individuals and treat them with respect. Leave them in peace.

0:24.0

You are not a God as a human being and they are not trash. They are feeling emotional, complex intelligences.

0:34.0

And yet you have them in chains, in cages. You're hitting them with a bullhacqara whip. You're throwing things down those

0:41.0

throats to test your medicines and cosmetics. Hands off. Just the same way we now understand with certain other human beings.

0:51.0

I would say it's so easy. If you really care and so many people do care is just don't buy anything that comes from an animal

1:00.0

because either the animal gave up their life for it or they kept in confinement for years and years

1:06.0

or it was stolen from them and they needed it. You know, every living being deserves respect.

1:12.0

That's Ingrid Newcirk and this is the Retro podcast.

1:21.0

The Retro podcast.

1:30.0

What is good people? I'm Retro your fellow homo sapien member of the animal kingdom.

1:37.0

Wishing you well being from what I think is, if I'm not mistaken, now week eight of voluntary quarantine here in the United States.

1:48.0

I hope this finds you safely and scanced in your domicile, healthy and making ends meet amidst the challenges.

1:57.0

And to those who can't afford to remain at home or health care service and food workers, thank you. Good to be here with all of you guys today.

2:06.0

My guest today needs very little introduction, the one, the only, the singular.

2:12.0

And at times infamous animal rights force of nature that is Ingrid Newcirk.

2:18.0

You guys knew this one was coming at some point, right? Well, if not or if for whatever reason Ingrid's name doesn't ring a bell,

2:26.0

she is the legendary co-founder and president of PETA, the nonprofit people for the ethical treatment of animals, which is

2:34.0

the largest animal rights organization in the world with more than 6.5 million members and supporters.

2:42.0

Today she shares her story. I love talking to her and it's coming up in a few, but first.

2:56.0

Okay, so here's a thing, no matter how you come down on beta, it really can't be disputed that this organization quite literally put animal welfare on the map.

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