Information Burnout: Are We Past Peak Sensemaking? | Frankly 93
The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
Nate Hagens
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🗓️ 2 May 2025
⏱️ 13 minutes
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Summary
Each morning, people around the world wake up to more troubling headlines – from power outages in Spain and Portugal to intensifying drone attacks in Ukraine. For some people, diving into the facts and data behind these types of crises provides an increase in knowledge resulting in agency and response.
On the other hand, a growing number of people feel overloaded with the constant stream of information about the multitude of threats in our world. How can people on this second arc of sensemaking still engage with these issues by grounding themselves in individual and community initiatives?
In this week's Frankly, Nate reflects on the increasingly wide variability in people's ability to consume and metabolize information on the converging crises actively playing out in our world. He reflects on his own ways of making sense of it all, and what that means for the kind of educational work still needed to address our shared Human Predicament.
How can we remain motivated to pursue meaningful work in times when we feel overwhelmed with the fragile state of the world? What is the role of information (and podcasts) in a landscape inundated with heavy news? And how might we draw on past sensemaking in order to move forward with building a future that is 'better than the default'?
(Recorded April 30, 2025)
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| 0:00.0 | Good morning. Frank was feeling left out, so he wanted to say hello. There is a lot going on in the |
| 0:10.0 | world. Power outage in Spain, the U.S. Prince negative GDP, cats living with dogs, real Old |
| 0:19.6 | Testament stuff. All right, Frank. |
| 0:22.6 | It is Wednesday morning, April 30th, and I have to make this short so that my staff can put this together for Friday morning. |
| 0:30.6 | Something happened in response to my Earth Day talk or my frankly on AI and service of life that got me to |
| 0:40.5 | thinking about the future of this work, this platform, the collective sense making of the human |
| 0:48.3 | condition. |
| 0:49.9 | And that's what I'd like to briefly reflect on today. |
| 1:13.0 | Thank you. And that's what I'd like to briefly reflect on today. I sent the link to my talk to a dear friend who is a card-carrying ecological economist, and I've known for over 20 years. |
| 1:16.3 | And I said, I think you might like this. |
| 1:23.2 | And she said, oh, well, it's one of your Franklies on Earth Day. So I just had a team meeting, and she has a pretty big job. |
| 1:28.4 | Just had a staff kind of morale boosting meeting and I'm riding high on that. |
| 1:34.9 | And your stuff is kind of heavy and scary and intense and depressing. |
| 1:39.1 | So I'll try to watch it in the next month or so, but can't do it. |
| 1:46.0 | And this is someone who understands our situation and has similar values to me. |
| 1:53.0 | And she couldn't bring herself to watch it. |
| 1:55.2 | So I called a friend of mine, inner circle colleague. |
| 1:59.6 | And he's like, I have the opposite reaction. He's like, |
| 2:02.4 | I watched it and I got really excited and driven and like made some calls in my local community. |
| 2:11.4 | I rewatched your Alexis Ziegler video on direct current and 300 watt society and I got fired up. But I talked to my |
| 2:20.9 | neighbor who's an ER doc who watches your podcast and he's like, it all makes sense. I just can't |
| 2:26.9 | do it. It's too heavy and it's too ominous. And you know, it made me think that there are two arcs happening. |
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