Well, this is Current Yeal, Grant's interest rate observer of the air.

I am Jim Grant, welcoming you.

And let's see, we'll take attendance.

Yes, here is Eric Whitehead to my left at the control panel.

Eric, among other things, is chief administrative officer of the imminent Grant's

Interest Rate Observer Conference. We're having this year in lieu of the boat show at the Javitt Center.

It's bigger than, I think it's bigger than the Astrodome, right? I think it's bigger than three

states of Delaware, is the word I get. Yes. Yeah, okay, that's on Tuesday.

And calling in from Borough of Brooklyn is the great deputy editor of Grants, Evan Lorenz.

Evan, good morning.

Evan.

Oh, okay, good.

And joining us from afar, I think, from that memory serves in the state of Connecticut, it was Nancy Davis, who was the progenitor of the

interest rate, volatility, and inflation hedge ETF, the ticker being Ival on the big board.

Good morning, Nancy.

Good morning.

Well, before getting into the business of the yield curve and the steepness or flatness thereof and the money to be made by intelligent

wagering on the shape of the curve. I would like to say a few words about Ludwig von Beethoven.

I'm not sure about you, Eric, but I am a flutter with the excitement coming up on the 250th anniversary of Beethoven's birth. That's

to be in December. And, you know, one of the annoying things about this stupid pandemic is the

cancellation of almost everything that one had hoped to see and do on the count of year 2020.

For example, there's a 250th anniversary of Beethoven's birth. That was to have been in

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