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🗓️ 9 October 2025
⏱️ 114 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Psychology in Seattle podcast. I am your host, Kirk Honda. I'm a professor and a |
| 0:07.9 | licensed therapist. It's just me today. I thought I would pose a question to you and then I would go on |
| 0:13.7 | with the podcast. So let me pose a question to you. A couple comes into therapy, so they're married or |
| 0:20.1 | they're not or something, but a couple comes into therapy, so they're married or they're not or something, but a couple comes |
| 0:21.7 | into therapy for a couple counseling. You meet alone with each of them. After the initial meeting |
| 0:27.9 | where you meet with both of them, you meet alone with each of them. And the wife tells you that she's |
| 0:32.9 | having an affair and does not want to tell her husband. What do you do? Okay, so just hold on to that question |
| 0:40.3 | and let me explain. I thought I would talk about a training I went to yesterday titled |
| 0:46.7 | Secrets, Cybersex, Affairs, Addiction, and Forgiveness, who was put on by Janice Abrams Spring, PhD. |
| 0:57.1 | She is a board-certified clinical psychologist, and she's a nationally acclaimed expert on |
| 1:03.5 | issues of trust, intimacy, and forgiveness. |
| 1:06.4 | She has three popular books that a lot of people rave about. |
| 1:11.6 | I haven't read them, but I have heard wonderful things from people that I respect, whom I respect. |
| 1:18.7 | The books are titled After the Affair. |
| 1:21.7 | The second one is, how can I forgive you? |
| 1:24.2 | And the third one is Life with Pop. |
| 1:26.5 | So again, the name of the training was called |
| 1:29.4 | secrets cyber sex affairs addiction and forgiveness as I like to do for the podcast sometimes |
| 1:35.6 | I will go to a movie or a training or something and I will just take a bunch of notes and then I |
| 1:41.4 | sit down in front of the microphone and just read through my notes |
| 1:45.0 | and see what comes out of my mouth. So Dr. Spring talked about the definition of an affair. |
| 1:52.0 | She said that decades ago, an affair was very narrowly defined and perhaps more easily defined |
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