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Infidelity, Broken Legs, and Healthy Marriage: Part Two with the Navarros

With The Perrys

The Perrys

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Christianity, Personal Journals

4.97.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 March 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

TRIGGER WARNING: Suicide is briefly discussed in this episode. Here’s part two of Jackie and Preston’s conversation with Lymari and Tony Navarro. Last week you heard about Tony’s betrayal, and in this episode they discuss the restoration of their marriage.  Things are incredibly fragile after a spouse’s affair, and the Navarros are honest about that. Lymari says couples need a season of “incubation” if they want to restore their relationship – a time of intentionally surrounding yourself with wise counsel and cutting out people persuading you to leave the marriage (again, if both husband and wife are committed to reconciliation). Tony’s affair was 25 years ago, and five years went by before the Navarros were in a place to support other couples with stories like theirs. Be encouraged – restoration takes time.  This Episode is Sponsored By: https://gominno.com/ — Sign up online with code PERRY to get your first month FREE! https://timtebow.com/tree-perry/ — Get your copy of If the Tree Could Speak by Tim Tebow on Amazon today! Connect with the Navarros: ⁠https://www.lymarinavarro.com/⁠ ⁠https://www.tonyandlymarinavarro.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.instagram.com/tonyandlymarinavarro⁠ Check out their book, "From Ruin to Renewal" – ⁠https://shop.familylife.com/product/from-ruin-to-renewal/⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

There once was a woman who lived in a shoe.

0:03.0

A size too snug, but what could she do?

0:06.0

But that's not where her story ends.

0:08.0

Thanks to a little help from her Experian friends,

0:11.0

she got her score into much better shape

0:13.0

and relocated to a box fresh new place,

0:16.0

with room to grow and a mortgage to suit.

0:19.0

Now, she lives in a spacious four-bedroom cowboy boots.

0:23.3

Better your Experian credit score to help get mortgage ready.

0:26.5

Experian.

0:27.5

Better your score.

0:28.7

Better your story.

0:35.3

We walk with couples now that go through, that have gone through infidelity.

0:42.9

One of the things that we tell them is that if you decide, both of you have come to the place

0:48.6

of we want to work on restoration in our marriage, then you need an incubator season where you close off

0:57.4

the voices of the naysayers. Because they'll be there. They'll tell you, girl, you're dumb.

1:05.1

You should not stay with him. They'll tell him, man, you know what? What you did was because of this, right? And so you have all these voices, even people who love you, who are biased. And that's why you need wise counsel. And your mama. And your mama would be like, you have out your mind if you go back to that man. You ain't never been there. You didn't cheat me.

1:27.6

You were in seven grades. It's a reason why you cheated. Yeah. Yeah. Like right away, mom will be like, well, you know, his mom, all of that. But I didn't tell my mom. I'll just be real honest. I didn't tell my mom for a season. Not until it became a testimony. Listen, I didn't even tell my sister,

1:45.5

my older sister, there were certain people, it's almost like the Lord was leading me. There were

1:50.8

certain people that I told. Sometimes I was venting and sometimes I was telling people because I just

1:58.3

needed them to be praying for us.

2:06.6

And if you could picture like a couple, and this is true for every marriage, if you could picture a couple, you need a community of strong couples holding hands surrounding your marriage

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