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The Red Nation Podcast

Indigenous people & Venezuela w/ Jorge Arreaza

The Red Nation Podcast

The Red Nation

History, Society & Culture

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 6 November 2019

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Venezuelan Minister of Foreign Affairs Jorge Arreaza (@jaarreaza) talks about the Indigenous socialist vision of the Bolivarian Revolution and how US sanctions have affected the country.

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0:00.0

And So, The one thing that was talked about specifically at the Congress that we were just that.

0:39.0

Somebody had quoted Mariettiathagi saying something to the effect that socialism cannot be a copy of something else, especially in the Americas and specifically referencing what you just talked about is

0:54.4

Indo-Sosubismo or indigenous socialism and can you talk about that project and

1:00.9

how it's unfolded here in Venezuela. Yes. A day like today 250 years ago,

1:11.1

the teacher of Simon Bolbeliever was born.

1:14.7

His name was Simondro-Drios.

1:16.8

And one of his main lessons was that we could not copy the European models, which should create our own model in order to have our own republics.

1:29.0

And to do so, we had to educate our own Republicans, and that's what this all began, well this teacher,

1:42.0

Simon Rod Ruggies. Well, this teacher, Simone Bolivar,

1:43.0

Simone Rodriguez, he,

1:46.0

and in that time, I'm talking 200 years ago,

1:49.0

we were under the Spaniard control,

1:52.0

and then we had independence but still with the elites, no?

1:56.0

And he, when he went to Bolivia and to Peru, he included the sons and the children of the indigenous, the children of the

2:08.7

former slaves in the schools, and that was scandal at the moment, no, even for the new independent politicians and leaders, no,

2:20.0

because he was sure that we were all equal and that we should be able to have not what in the formal world we listened and understand as equality of opportunities or

2:38.4

equality of conditions. You have to have the same conditions, especially in your primary rights, like education or health.

2:48.0

You can not have the same conditions if you're poor and education is private if you compare yourself to someone who has money.

3:02.0

But if education is free for all, then the children of the rich and the children of the poor,

3:08.0

they all have the same condition.

3:10.0

So that's really what we were trying to build 200 years ago.

3:15.9

And then all of course the socialist influence from Europe as well, what happened in the US-S-S-R, what happened in China, so we had all this,

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