India and Pakistan: Nuclear Neighbors on the Brink

Angry Planet

Matthew Gault

War, Politics, Conflict, Government, History, News

4.3 • 882 Ratings

🗓️ 10 May 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Recorded 5/7/25

India and Pakistan have been unhappy neighbors since 1947 and Britain’s decolonization of the subcontinent. They’ve fought four wars and there have been countless skirmishes. As Indian jets streak over Pakistani skies and that Muslim nation threatens retaliation, it’s unclear if this is war or just another blip between nations that plain don’t like each other.

Joining us is Sushant Singh, a man with a background that includes academic, journalist and 20-year veteran in the Indian army. He’s written an article on the situation in Foreign Affairs, and brings us up to date.

The state of play on the morning of May 7th
The Pahalgam attack
‘The Switzerland of India’
Matthew almost gets everyone into a lot of trouble
How Pakistan creates instability in Kashmir
The entire history of the conflict between India and Pakistan in about five minutes
China’s looming presence
‘These are non-escaltory strikes’
Comparing the militaries
Getting into the nuclear options
Pakistan’s tactical nuclear arsenal
The incredible monetary cost of uncertain missile defense
We go out on a happy note for once

More than 20 killed after gunmen open fire on tourists in Indian-administered Kashmir

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0:53.9	If I was a conspiracy theorist, I would say that Jason was already aware that Indians were going to do it.
0:59.9	And that's why he scheduled the talk for today.
1:02.4	Well, you shouldn't be surprised.
1:04.5	I'm actually not a, you know, I'm more of a clairvoyant than anything else.
1:10.2	The calcala won. It's a great quality to have. Anyway, thank you. clairvoyant than anything else. Calcula.
1:11.1	It's a great quality to have.
1:14.0	Anyway, thank you so much for doing this with us.
1:18.6	And I guess maybe we should start off by saying,
1:22.8	I hope you're going to stay safe.
1:24.6	Where are you right now?
1:26.5	So I'm in India.
1:29.1	I'm in Delhi, I'm in, I'm in Dedy, India.
1:36.3	Welcome to another conversation about conflict on an extremely angry planet that just keeps getting angrier. I'm Jason Fields. I'm Matthew Galt. And today we are talking about the, well,
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