Hey everyone, welcome to March 19th of Steniel.

I'm kind of kind of get right into it because I think that this conversation really speaks for itself and

my guest today, Hanif, he can definitely say anything better than I could possibly say,

you know, in the intro of this episode, because he's been working, Hanif Fazal has been working

tirelessly for over 20 years to create spaces that are comfortable for people regardless of their identity

and help create spaces that allow people to thrive and feel like they actually matter, regardless of background

and, you know, regardless of identity, he's just doing such amazing work and he has a book out taught in other world

and he's the co-founder of the Center for Equity and Inclusion.

He works with organizations, school districts, foundations, and community leaders to strategically and urgently advance equity and inclusion efforts.

And I loved this conversation. I love these kinds of conversations because as a parent, as someone with the platform that we have,

you know, as someone who is just kind of always trying to work on myself and realize that, you know, we all have so much work to do in the space of equity and inclusion,

and no matter, you know, whether we, even if, okay, how good a human we are, you still have to work on it.

And so this conversation and conversations like this help to open up some ideas and actionable tips for what can we actually be doing, right?

What small, even, you know, tiny minute changes can we make right now in our homes, our classrooms, our workplaces, our community centers, you know,

our places of worship, all the things, all the places, so that people, regardless of identity, thrive and feel like they actually matter.

And so, you know, I think it's so incredible that Honey Fizal has really dedicated his life to this, and he is working tirelessly to make these spaces more comfortable for everyone.

And we talk a lot about why it's so important to have these conversations, not just with kids, even though that is really important.

It is really important to have these in the workplace and in adult spaces.

And we talk a lot about that because so many of us grew up never learning about any of this.

How do we create spaces for people, you know, no matter where, in a restaurant, in a library, in a mall that just makes someone feel welcomed and safe, regardless of, you know, who they are, their background, their sexual orientation,

whatever it is, what small actionable changes can we make.

So, I really think you're going to enjoy this conversation because Honey Fiz has so many, he just has so many morsels of knowledge and strategy that really will help no matter, you know, if you're a parent, a boss, a business owner, whatever it is.

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