Hello, everybody. Welcome to Three Point Perspective. The podcast about illustration, how to do it,

how to make a living at it, and how to make an impact in the world with your art. I'm Jake Parker.

I'm Lee White. And I'm Will Terry. And all three of us are professional illustrators. We've all

worked for all the major publishers in the business. Together we published somewhere around 75 children's books, and we've all taught illustration at

university art programs. Each week, we come at you guys with different illustrator interviews or

fantastic questions from listeners just like yourself. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we argue,

but each time you learn something,

brand spanking new.

Brand spankan new.

You're a little too smooth with that, Lee.

You're getting smooth, you know.

I want to get a brand spankan new t-shirt made.

It just says, three-point perspective.

Learn something brand spanking new.

Can I start with a disc golf

analogy story because i know our audience we've been dying for this can't get enough of this

but it's true i use like i said before on the podcast i use other things in my life to influence

kind of what i'm doing with illustration.

And so here's something that happened the other day that I thought was a great teachable moment.

I am trying to get better.

I'm good, but I'm not great.

And I'm trying to get better.

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