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IN THE NEW TIME OF CLOSING DOORS. 1/4: A Beginner's Guide to America: For the Immigrant and the Curious by Roya Hakakian

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John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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IN THE NEW TIME OF CLOSING DOORS. 1/4: A Beginner's Guide to America: For the Immigrant and the Curious by Roya Hakakian

https://www.amazon.com/Beginners-Guide-America-Immigrant-Curious/dp/0525656065/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1622853677&sr=1-1

A stirring, witty, and poignant glimpse into the bewildering American immigrant experience from someone who has lived it. Also, a mirror held up to America.

Into the maelstrom of unprecedented contemporary debates about immigrants in the United States, this perfectly timed book gives us a portrait of what the new immigrant experience in America is really like. Written as a "guide" for the newly arrived, and providing "practical information and advice," Roya Hakakian, an immigrant herself, reveals what those who settle here love about the country, what they miss about their homes, the cruelty of some Americans, and the unceasing generosity of others. She captures the texture of life in a new place in all its complexity, laying bare both its beauty and its darkness as she discusses race, sex, love, death, consumerism, and what it is like to be from a country that is in America's crosshairs. Her tenderly perceptive and surprisingly humorous account invites us to see ourselves as we appear to others, making it possible for us to rediscover our many American gifts through the perspective of the outsider. In shattering myths and embracing painful contradictions that are unique to this place,A Beginner's Guide to America is Hakakian's candid love letter to America.

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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.5

Here's John Batchelor.

0:10.8

Roya Hukakki.

0:12.6

Her new book, A Beginner's Guide to America for the Immigrant and the Curious.

0:18.1

Roya is an immigrant to America from a country of my grandfather and grandmother's

0:24.6

birth, once upon a time, Persia and many versions before that, but now known as Iran. And her

0:32.3

story gives us an understanding of what it is to arrive, not only from Iran, but from around the world to

0:38.9

modern America. We begin the storytelling with a day that Roya chronicles in her book in an

0:47.4

ethnic food store somewhere in New York, and she's shopping, and she observes a couple from Iran who are newly arrived.

0:57.9

I think six weeks and four days is the detail that emerges.

1:01.1

And they're puzzling over a piece of meat in the frozen meat counter because they can't read the label.

1:07.8

And Roya goes up to them to offer her help.

1:10.3

Roya, congratulations, and a very

1:13.1

good evening to you, and thank you for this. This young couple, you're observing, you go to help

1:18.3

them, and you immediately fall into their language, your language from Iran. They seem apparently

1:26.7

grateful. You note that the wife is clutching her handbag. Why? What does

1:32.2

this tell you? Good evening to you, Roy. Good evening, John. I'm delighted to be back on your show and

1:38.8

in conversation with you. So this is exactly, as you described, it's a new couple who have just arrived and they feel

1:49.8

so insecure in this new country that they don't believe that they can trust to leave any of their

1:59.3

valuables at home. So the wife keeps carrying the passports with her in her handbag.

2:05.7

And so she constantly clutches it.

2:08.0

They carry all the cash that they've brought with them in the same handbag with them wherever they go.

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