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Welcome to another episode of Conversations with Coleman. My guest today is Kewu Jean.

Kou is a Chinese economist currently teaching at the London School of Economics, and she

just published a book called the New China Playbook. Kuyu gave a TED talk about a month ago,

the same week that I did, and that's how I became aware of her. By the way, with any luck, my TED

talk should be coming out soon. So Kuyu has an unorthodox stance on China, at least to a Western audience. It's now a

bipartisan consensus that China is our main geopolitical rival, and that we ought to treat China as if

not an outright enemy than at least a major adversary. From trade wars to theft of our intellectual

property, to spy balloons, most American politicians would endorse a tough on China stance,

at least in principle. Kewijin believes that this is the wrong approach. She thinks that America

and the West have misunderstood and unfairly villainized China. As you'll hear in our conversation,

I don't share her view, but I'm always interested to hear the arguments of the lone voice willing to buck a consensus.

So we talk about China's economy and its strengths, its weaknesses.

We talk about China's political system and why it differs from countries like South Korea and Japan.

We talk about China's declining birth rate.

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