I think it starts with not parenting based on validation from the outside.

It's when you compromise your own values and your own beliefs

because of the subjective opinion of random people.

Success for me is not money. Success is peace of mind. Lack of anxiety.

Smiling when you wake up versus frowning. Being optimistic versus being cynical. Not being

affected by the opinions and judgment of other parents and releasing our own judgment of other parents. I think those two steps.

Well, the more you deploy judgment, the more you're susceptible to judgment. There's a level of knowing that your

parent gives a shit

that comes along with consequences that's powerful.

Yeah, you don't like it, but you can appreciate it on some level.

Correct.

You also respect it.

Parenting is hard because anything that's special is hard.

Attention is the number one asset.

Gary, welcome.

Thanks so much for being here.

Thanks for having me.

I'm so excited to chat about,

I feel like a new topic for you somewhat. You're so well known in the online world and this is a little bit of a new road for you.

So I'm really excited to get to delve in especially because in the prep for this interview you mentioned that you felt like you were perfectly parented and we're

talking to a lot of moms and I know this is something we think a lot about is moms is obviously

wanting to do the best with our kids and kind of not getting to know until they're grown what worked and what didn't.

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