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Impeaching Other Presidents

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News Commentary, Politics, News

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 7 December 2019

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Dahlia Lithwick is joined by Kate Shaw, a professor of law at Cardozo Law School and the co-director of the Floersheimer Center for Constitutional Democracy. They talk about presidential speech, impeachment, and why figuring out what happens next involves taking a close look at what happened in 1868.


Podcast production by Sara Burningham.

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0:00.0

If what we're talking about is not impeachable, then nothing is impeachable.

0:13.0

The very idea that a president might seek the aid of a foreign government in his re-election campaign would have horrified them.

0:21.6

Preservation of the constitutional order, they seem to be saying, requires an affirmative

0:26.9

impeachment vote on these facts.

0:32.5

Hi, and welcome to Amicus.

0:35.0

This is Slate's podcast about the courts and the law and the Supreme Court and also justice.

0:41.0

And it seems increasingly it's a show about the Constitution and also impeachment. So like we have stuff to talk about.

0:49.5

This past week in some ways provided a pretty stark example of what it might look like were the

0:56.1

Constitution itself to be put on trial. Certainly we heard a good deal about law professors

1:02.8

and how out of touch, elitist, ivory tower, checked out and just all out boring, constitutional law experts really are.

1:14.2

America will see why most people don't go to law school.

1:18.6

No offense to our professors.

1:20.9

But please.

1:23.2

Really?

1:23.8

You may not see this from, you know, like the ivory towers of your law school.

1:27.5

If you love America, mamas don't let your babies grow up to go to Harvard or Stanford Law School.

1:34.8

We got law professors here. What a start of a party.

1:38.4

But we also received, should we choose to receive it, an absolute clinic on the framers, impeachment, constitutional

1:47.6

drafting, the conventions, impeachable offenses, and we heard it from some of the nation's greatest

1:53.2

legal minds. Pamela Carlin and Michael Gerhardt have both been on this show in recent weeks.

1:58.7

They were two of the witnesses before the House Judiciary Committee this week.

2:02.5

Noah Feldman from Harvard, Jonathan Turley, were also on hand for eight hours of testimony and questioning about issues that actually have been at the very heart of this show for months now.

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