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The RELEVANT Podcast

IMPACT Conversation Series — David Meltzer & Mark Batterson

The RELEVANT Podcast

RELEVANT Magazine

Christianity, Entertainment News, News, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

4.62.9K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of our IMPACT Conversation Series, entrepreneur David Meltzer shares how losing everything led him to redefine success through faith, gratitude and purpose. Then, pastor and author Mark Batterson unpacks the message behind his new bookGradually Then Suddenly — why breakthroughs happen slowly, then all at once. Hosted by Cameron Strang and presented by World Vision, these conversations explore what it really means to make an impact through business, ministry and everyday faith.

CHAPTERS:

00:00 — Introduction with Cameron Strang

01:18 — World Vision partnership + mission spotlight

02:30 — David Meltzer joins the conversation

04:00 — Losing everything and redefining success

07:10 — Rebuilding faith, gratitude, and purpose

10:45 — How business can be a tool for impact

14:20 — The balance between ambition and surrender

18:05 — Closing thoughts from Cameron

21:25 — Introduction to Mark Batterson

21:40 — “Gradually Then Suddenly”: the meaning behind the title

23:00 — The myth of overnight success

24:20 — Why faith often moves at the speed of a seed

25:55 — Persistence: the bridge between failure and breakthrough

28:30 — Discerning when to persist and when to pivot

30:50 — How to stay faithful in the “gradually” seasons

32:45 — Encouragement for those still waiting for their “suddenly”

35:40 — Final reflections from Mark Batterson

36:54 — Cameron Strang outro + next episode tease



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Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Relevant founder Cameron Strang, and this is the Relevant Podcast Impact

0:10.0

Conversation series.

0:11.6

On this episode, we're mixing things up a bit.

0:14.4

Hopefully you saw our first episode with Jimmy Darts.

0:16.3

It was incredible.

0:17.1

If you missed that conversation, definitely do yourself a favor and go get it.

0:21.9

Today, we've got two great guests who are here to talk about making an impact this time

0:27.6

through business and ministry and staying focused on your God-given purpose no matter what.

0:34.3

Our first guest today is entrepreneur and speaker David Meltzer.

0:49.6

He's built and led multi-million dollar companies, worked alongside some of the biggest names in sports entertainment, even working as a CEO for the agency that inspired the movie Jerry McGuire.

0:53.8

Years after grinding, though, he reached the top of his field. And at the height of his success, he lost it all, going bankrupt and losing all his money and his career, even parts of his identity.

1:02.1

That season forced David to completely redefine what success meant.

1:06.3

He rebuilt his life and business from the ground up, this time anchored around faith and rounded out

1:11.7

with gratitude and service. Now he's made it his mission to empower others to find purpose in their

1:17.9

work and use their influence for good and make money too, of course. He has an amazing testimony

1:23.7

about redemption, perspective, and what it really means to make an impact at last.

1:30.0

I'm excited for you to hear that conversation.

1:32.2

It's coming up in just a few seconds.

1:36.6

But before we get to that, I want to thank the presenting sponsor of this six-part impact conversation series, Christian humanitarian organization, World Vision.

1:40.8

I've had the chance to travel and see their relief, development, and advocacy

1:44.7

work overseas, and I can tell you it is life-changing. With the presence in nearly 100 countries,

1:50.4

World Vision helps equip families, children, and communities to lift themselves out of poverty.

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