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Immaculate Conception... Or Not?

Girlscamp

Hayley Rawle

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals, Religion & Spirituality

4.71.9K Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Today I’m diving into the Mormon POV on Mother Mary. And beyond some very ahem interesting doctrinal points (see the title), Mary opens up a much bigger conversation about virginity and virtue, the physical nature of the Mormon God, and the absence of any real female divinity in LDS theology. Mary, the Mother of Jesus (according to TCOJCOLDS) FAIR Latter Day Saints on Mary The Guardian Article Mormon Research Ministry Article on Mary Join the Girlscamp: After Dark Patreon account ⁠⁠here⁠ for two bonus episodes per month and more. For more Girlscamp content follow along on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠, ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠. For ad inquiries please email girlscamppodcast@gmail.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

G-I-R-L-S-C-A-N-P-S-K-E-N-P-S-K-K-E-N-P-S-K-K-L-E.

0:11.7

Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Girls'Camp podcast.

0:14.2

I'm your host, Haley Rawl, and I'm so happy that you tuned in today.

0:18.0

We are going to be having a discussion about Mary, Mother of Jesus.

0:25.0

Virgin Mary, Blessed Mother of God. Mary is of varying degrees of spiritual significance across

0:33.7

Christian faiths and even beyond Christian faiths. But we are going to be focusing mainly

0:39.6

on who Mary is within a Mormon context. I actually set out to do this episode similar to what I did

0:48.3

with the Jesus historical deep dive episode. And I think that we will end up doing that somewhere down the line. But I was like,

0:55.9

you know, I want to talk about the Mormon side of things really quickly. I didn't think there would be

1:00.2

all that much there because I grew up a Mormon and Mary was not a big deal in my upbringing.

1:07.8

There was not a lot of talk about her lessons lessons about her, anything. And so I thought

1:12.1

that would be just a brief little blip. But it actually sent me down quite the rabbit hole to

1:18.1

research Mary within the context of Mormonism. And I just kept finding more and more and more.

1:24.0

And soon enough, I had plenty to talk about, just talking about who is Mary

1:29.0

two Mormons. And I love this topic because, yes, we're going to be talking about the idea of Mary,

1:35.4

the doctrines that surround Mary. But those doctrinal points led to really interesting thoughts and

1:42.7

opinions from other people as I was researching and things

1:46.0

that were coming up for me around how Mormons view the body, how they view women, purity

1:51.7

culture, God, and the character of God. It just led to a lot of really interesting stuff.

1:59.4

So that's what we're talking about today. I really tried

2:02.3

to rack my brain to make sure that I was remembering everything I may have learned about Mary.

2:07.7

But the only thing that I can remember that had any sort of impact on me is a single verse

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