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Intelligent Machines (Audio)

IM 844: Poob Has It For You - Spiky Superintelligence vs. Generality

Intelligent Machines (Audio)

Leo Laporte

Ai, Artificial Intelligence, Technology, Twit

4.2892 Ratings

🗓️ 5 November 2025

⏱️ 163 minutes

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Summary

Is today's AI stuck as a "spiky superintelligence," brilliant at some things but clueless at others? This episode pulls back the curtain on a lunchroom full of AI researchers trading theories, strong opinions, and the next big risks on the path to real AGI.

  • Why "Everyone Dies" Gets AGI All Wrong
  • The Nonprofit Feeding the Entire Internet to AI Companies
  • Google's First AI Ad Avoids the Uncanny Valley by Casting a Turkey
  • Coca-Cola Is Trying Another AI Holiday Ad. Executives Say This Time Is Different
  • Sam Altman shuts down question about how OpenAI can commit to spending $1.4 trillion while earning billions: 'Enough'
  • How OpenAI Uses Complex and Circular Deals to Fuel Its Multibillion-Dollar Rise
  • Perplexity's new AI tool aims to simplify patent research
  • Kids Turn Podcast Comments Into Secret Chat Rooms, Because Of Course They Do
  • Amazon and Perplexity have kicked off the great AI web browser fight
  • Neural network finds an enzyme that can break down polyurethane
  • Dictionary.com names 6-7 as 2025's word of the year
  • Tech companies don't care that students use their AI agents to cheat
  • The Morning After: Musk talks flying Teslas on Joe Rogan's show
  • The Hatred of Podcasting | Brace Belden
  • TikTok announces its first awards show in the US
  • Google wants to build solar-powered data centers — in space
  • Anthropic Projects $70 Billion in Revenue, $17 Billion in Cash Flow in 2028
  • American Museum of Tort Law
  • Dog Chapel - Dog Mountain
  • Nicvember masterlist
  • Pornhub says UK visitors down 77% since age checks came in

Hosts: Leo Laporte, Jeff Jarvis, and Paris Martineau

Guest: Jeremy Berman

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0:00.0

It's time for intelligent machines.

0:02.0

Paris and Jeffer here are guest this hour, Jeremy Berman.

0:06.0

He is a post-training researcher at reflection.a.i.

0:10.0

And his AI recently just got the highest score on the ARC AGI test.

0:16.0

How did he do it? What is post-training and what's the future of AGI? All coming up next on

0:23.0

intelligent machines.

0:27.1

Podcasts you love. From people you trust.

0:31.3

This is Twit.

0:35.5

This is Intelligent Machines with Paris Martineau and Jeff Jarvis.

0:39.8

Episode 844 recorded Wednesday, November 5th, 2025.

0:45.1

Poob has it for you.

0:47.2

It's time for intelligent machines, the show we cover the latest in artificial intelligence and robotics

0:52.2

and the smart little doohhickies surrounding us all.

0:56.2

Look, I've got smart do-hickies everywhere in the house.

0:59.9

Jeff Jarvis is here, Professor Emeritus of Journalistic Innovation at the Craig Narmerk Graduate School of City.

1:05.1

You almost had it, Leo.

1:10.7

I do. We made a deal that if I got through the end, that we wouldn't play the jingle. Jeff is the author of the Gutenberg parentheses and magazine, a history of magazines. And when does Hot Type come out? Because I'm loving it. June. June. I have to wait till June. Oh. Tell me if if that's very good. Tell me if I got anything up.

1:27.6

Tell me if I got anything wrong. It's got to be warm weather for hot type.

1:31.3

It's just going to have a beach side launch party, right?

1:34.1

That word smithing comes to you from Paris Martineau, who is a investigative journalist to consumer reports. Hello, Paris.

1:42.0

Hello, Paris. Come, Paris. Como's it?

1:45.5

So, we have a very interesting guest joining us for, as we often do, the beginning of the show.

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