IM 843: Immortal Beloved, You've Arrived - AI's Emotional Intelligence Paradox

Intelligent Machines (Audio)

Leo Laporte

Ai, Twit, Artificial Intelligence, Technology

4.2 • 895 Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2025

⏱️ 182 minutes

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Summary

Can an AI truly care about your feelings—or is emotional intelligence in machines just the most sophisticated form of manipulation? Dr. Alan Cowen of Hume AI joins the crew to unpack the promise and peril of emotionally adept bots, even as they're quietly shaping how we connect, seek help, and parent in the digital age.

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Hosts: Leo Laporte, Jeff Jarvis, and Paris Martineau

Guest: Dr. Alan Cowen

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0:00.0	It's time for intelligent machines.
0:02.2	Paris and Jeffer here.
0:03.3	Our guest, Dr. Alan Cowan, is the chief scientist at Hume AI.
0:08.3	He is an expert in human emotion, and he thinks AI needs to be responsive to our emotions.
0:16.4	We'll talk about that and all the AI news.
0:19.1	Next on Intelligent Machines intelligent machines podcasts you love from people you
0:26.3	trust this is twit this is intelligent machines with paris martineau and jeff jarvis episode
0:36.4	843 recorded wednesday, October 29th, 2025.
0:42.1	Immortal Beloved, you've arrived.
0:45.1	It's time for intelligent machines, the show where we talk about the latest in AI, robotics, and all those doohickeys surrounding us.
0:52.3	The smart little things loading the dishwasher,
0:56.8	folding the clothes.
0:58.3	No, they're not doing any of that walking the dog.
1:00.6	Paris Martin-O is here from Consumer Reports.
1:03.4	The queen of lead in your protein powder.
1:07.5	The queen of every week being more and more baffled by how you choose to introduce the show. Every week it's different. I'm trying to mix it up. But yet it's still the same. And yet the same, yeah. That's kind of in a nutshell, the story of my life. I just keep doing the same thing over and over again. Hello, Paris. Hi, Leah. You were so good on our D&D adventure. We have
1:30.4	decided to do it again. Finish the corn maze. It's great. I love playing D&D. You know, you converted
1:38.0	me. I was the only one in the group who had never played. And I admit that culturally, I had some
1:43.4	issues at first. But eventually, I think I got it. were culturally I had some issues at first but eventually
1:45.6	I think I got it yeah I will say if you guys listen to the the stream of it which is available
1:53.2	for club twit members you will hear just random sound effects playing all throughout the entire
1:59.8	thing seemingly with no rhyme or reason
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