I'm Nora McInerney, and it's going to be okay.

This is a podcast where we talk about the things that are getting us through in a world that is largely not okay.

It is not toxic positivity.

This is a coping skill.

When things are hard, when things are dark, it is even more important to look for and appreciate the good things in life. And when good feels like too high of a bar, we say,

okay, lower the bar. Find things that are okay. You can do that. I can do that. We can do it

together right here every other week. We do want your okay things.

You can call them in, text them in, email. Our phone number is 502-388-O-K-A-Y. That's 502-388

okay-a-Y. The numbers are 6529, or IGTBO at Feelingsand.com. And both of those things are also

always in our episode description. So if you didn't write them down right now, that's okay.

You can just open up the episode description and get them right there. But today we have a special guest. She is

known as America's government teacher. She is the New York Times bestselling author of The Small

and the Mighty, 12 unsung Americans who changed the course of history from the founding to the

civil rights movement. And she is the host and creator of the preamble, a podcast and a

newsletter. She is Sharon

McMahon, known as Sharon says so, on Instagram, and she is more than okay to me because, and yes,

this is biased, she is also a very tall woman. And as a very tall woman, I love very tall women.

Today, we are talking about so many okay things, including country geese

and what it's like to grow up in a geese-forward household. Unexpected, jaw-dropping kindnesses

that change the trajectory of your family forever. Bird decor in general. Bird migration,

lot of bird talk, I'll be honest, dogs, dogs,

and a lot more. So here is our conversation with Sharon McMahon.

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