If You Think Emotional Intelligence is BS, Then You Probably Don't Have Any with Matt Kursh: An EOFire Classic from 2022

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🗓️ 14 November 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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From the archive: This episode was originally recorded and published in 2022. Our interviews on Entrepreneurs On Fire are meant to be evergreen, and we do our best to confirm that all offers and URL's in these archive episodes are still relevant.

Matt Kursh, CEO and co-founder of Oji Life Lab, has started and sold companies to Apple and Microsoft, ran Microsoft's web business, and produced a round-the-world running relay for charity.

Top 3 Value Bombs

1. It's one thing to identify areas where you want to be better, but you've got to do the work. Doing the work means finding methods to practice the skills. When you do the work, you will see your life improve in fundamental ways.

2. Some devices don't recognize infrared, but it doesn't mean that it's not there. It's just like emotional intelligence. Just because it doesn't seem to exist doesn't mean that it's all BS.

3. We can boost emotional intelligence. It's a simple, conceptual framework. Two parts of boosting emotional intelligence are recognizing emotional state, then recollecting your emotions to get them in a place that's better matched to your goals.

A learning experience like no other. Now you can develop essential skills for personal and organizational success - Oji Life Lab

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0:00.0	Boom. Shake the room, Fire Nation. JLD here and welcome to Entrepreneurs on Fire.
0:06.9	Brought to you by High Level, the all-on-one sales and marketing platform on today's
0:10.8	class cup. So we'll be breaking down how if you think emotional intelligence is BS, then you
0:15.4	probably don't have any. So drop these vibe bombs that brought to Matt Kirsch in the EO Fire
0:19.4	Studios. Matt is the CEO and founder of OG Life Lab, has started and sold companies to Apple and Microsoft, ran Microsoft web businesses, and produced around the world running relay for charity. And today, our nation, we talk about value bombs, how some devices don't recognize infrared, but it doesn't mean this not there. It's just like emotional intelligence. Just because
0:37.5	it doesn't seem to exist, it doesn't mean that it's all BS and how we can boost emotional
0:43.2	intelligence. It's simple and is a conceptual framework, which we'll go over and owe so much more.
0:48.6	And a big thing of sponsoring today's episode goes to Matt and our sponsors.
0:53.5	Are you ready for the ultimate all-in-one platform for entrepreneurs, marketers, coaches, and
0:59.1	agencies, build funnels, automate follow-ups, manage clients, and even white-label
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1:16.0	Fire Nation, it's time to stop guessing and start winning with a proven playbook.
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1:26.2	building processes, and driving traffic all in just
1:29.2	90 days. Ready for freedom? Visit freedom-circle.com to learn more. Matt, say what's up to
1:38.4	Fire Nation and share something that you believe about becoming successful that most people disagree with.
1:45.9	JLD, thanks a ton for having me on.
1:47.9	This is really fun to be able to connect like this.
1:51.9	You know, I've been thinking about this question.
1:53.8	I've listened to your podcast.
1:55.5	I know this is how you start.
1:56.8	And, you know, the thing I thought from the perspective we're coming from, working on emotional
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