Good morning. Three minutes after 10, thank Crunchy. It's Friday. Um, one last push, eh? I find myself inevitably circling territory that we have explored together quite a lot over the years, although I wonder whether we've explored it as much as other sort of radio phone-in programs historically, because I don't generally spend any time at all inviting you to get

very angry and frightened about foreigners. I don't talk about immigration perhaps as much as people

who do spend a lot of time telling you to get very angry and frightened about foreigners do.

It's a pointless exercise in one sense because, well, as we will see, immigration is a much more nuanced

and largely positive phenomenon than almost all media coverage allows. And, of course,

in the other sense, demonising it, turning it into something ugly, something to be rejected,

causes the sort of scenes that we saw in Dublin last night,

proving your patriotism as an Irish man by setting fire to Irish bosses and attacking Irish police officers.

That's great, well done, lads.

It's on your crack.

It's just bonkers, though.

I'm possibly using that word a bit too much, but possibly not

enough, actually. It is utterly bonkers to step back even half a step from the political

and media fray and reflect upon where we are. So the loudest voices in this country have been decrying immigration for as long

as I can now remember. I've been doing this job, would you believe, for about 20 years now. It's weird,

really. I still feel like the new boy. I still feel wet behind the years. But 20 years. Every day is

different.

And I would say out of all of the issues we've discussed, all of the issues that we have covered, all of the stories that have unfolded, by some distance, the one that comes around again and again and again, like a repeating curry, is immigration.

You know, breakthrough moments in the way I present the show were a consequence of immigration. Dealing with the nonsense about

you're not being allowed to say what you want about immigration without being called a racist.

It was a breakthrough moment for me. And yet nothing has changed at all, has it? Which is understandable if we had been governed by

people who were comfortable with immigration and clear about its benefits, but we have been

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