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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

News, Politics

4.7 • 6.6K Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2026

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Having spent 12 hours in near World War I-trench conditions at the Georgetown hospital, Jonah Goldberg is feeling grateful for penicillin and ready to pile in on some good ol’ fashioned eggheadery. After reminiscing about a battlefield experience at a different Washington hospital some years ago, Jonah indulges in some I-told-you-so on Iran, before getting into the midterms, SpaceX, investment regrets, 60 Minutes, Bari Weiss, media bias, Sam Francis, Italian Elite Theory, middle American radicals, Gramsci, and societal restraints on violence. Show Notes: —Friday’s Dispod —Jonah’s LA Times column on Schrödinger’s ceasefire —Chris Stirewalt Remnant —The Cook Political Report: “Ohio Poll Could Portend Trouble for Republicans” —Eli Lake’s podcast with Michael Anton —Charles Fain Lehman on crime in The Dispatch —Jonah’s first book —Violence and Social Orders: A Conceptual Framework for Interpreting Recorded Human History —Jonah’s book Suicide of the West The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a nonpartisan perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including the Saturday Ruminant, audio versions of all our articles and newsletters, and Jonah’s twice-weekly G-File—⁠click here⁠. Instructions on how to set up your members-only feed can be found here, and if you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:49.0	Can you digger?
1:01.6	Greetings do Greetings, dear listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host to the Remedinant podcast, brought to you by the Dispatch.
1:11.3	And Dispatch Media, rather than my usual explanations for why I'm jebush-level energy or whatnot.
1:16.5	When in doubt, I tell people the truth about what's going on to me.
1:24.6	So I spent about 12 hours, give or take, at the Georgetown Medical Center or MedStar Emergency Room from about, I left my house around 3.30 in the morning,
1:32.2	you know, Wednesday night, which would be, you know, like Thursday morning, right?
1:35.8	Didn't get out of there until about 4.30 in the afternoon.
1:42.0	As far as we can ascertain, I did a lot of tests. Got a endoscopy. I had
1:49.5	esophagitis, which is basically a big swelling of your esophagus right around your breastbone.
1:59.2	Possible that there was some food impaction that got swept away before they could get the
2:03.8	scope down or whatever.
2:05.4	But man, did it hurt?
2:07.5	Like, I never really worried I was having a heart attack, but I can completely understand
2:12.7	why people think, often think they're having heart attacks and why, like, when you come in
2:17.1	complaining about
2:17.9	that cluster of pain, hospitals treat it as if you might be having a cardiac event because
2:23.4	pretty friggin similar. I had a bad heartburn most of the day that day and of late.
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