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Matter of Opinion

“If We Think There’s a Trump Cult Already …”

Matter of Opinion

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.27.2K Ratings

🗓️ 31 May 2024

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

With Lydia in South Africa covering their election, Ross out on parental leave and Michelle reporting from a saloon in Colorado, Carlos turns the mic over to his Times Opinion colleagues to respond to the news about Donald Trump’s guilty verdict in the New York hush-money trial. The columnists Michelle Goldberg and David French — who calls himself “a recovering litigator” — join the deputy Opinion editor, Patrick Healy, to discuss Trump’s 34 guilty counts and debate what they mean for the former president, whether he’ll face jail time and how it will affect the 2024 presidential race.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi there, matter of opinion listeners, quite a newsweek.

0:06.8

As you may have heard, yesterday Donald Trump was convicted on 34 felony counts in the

0:10.9

hush money trial in New York. Turns out my fellow co-host

0:14.0

aren't around right now to dig into that with me. Ross just had a baby, Lydia's

0:18.2

covering the election in South Africa, and I think Michelle is reporting in a

0:21.6

saloon somewhere in Colorado.

0:23.0

We had an episode already for you and you'll get to hear it soon.

0:27.0

But, given the breaking news, we're going to hand things over to our colleagues in opinion.

0:32.0

They met right after the verdict was

0:34.0

announced to discuss what comes next for Trump and the presidential election.

0:37.6

Your regular matter of opinion crew will be back soon, I promise.

0:41.5

Till then, enjoy. I'm Patrick Healy, deputy editor of New York Times opinion.

0:55.0

I'm Michelle Goldberg opinion columnist.

0:58.0

I'm David French opinion columnist and recovering litigator. Donald Trump has been found guilty on all 34 felony counts of falsifying business

1:10.8

records in the Hush money case.

1:13.0

There's really no other word but historic for this moment.

1:17.0

And we're in uncharted waters in terms of the political implications

1:21.0

of Trump's conviction and what it'll mean for the presidential

1:24.8

race, for American unity, and for the future.

1:29.3

Guys, we're recording this just two hours after the verdict was delivered.

1:33.4

In one word, how are you both feeling?

1:37.0

Michelle?

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