Hi, everyone. Welcome back to Drop Dead serious. I'm Ashley Bansfield. It is day 22 of the Karen Reed murder trial. And if you are hoping that today's testimony would clear anything up, think again, my friends. Dr. Judson Welcher, the prosecution's crash reconstruction expert,

was back on the stand today. But the majority of the day, it was the defense doing the questioning.

And let's just say that it was not easy to follow. From the start, this was not your typical back

and forth on the witness stand. Dr. Welcher, at times,

could have been seen as like snarky, combative. He often refused to give simple yes or no

answers. His responses were long. The slides were confusing. And at times it felt like he was

lecturing more than he was testifying.

Even the judge had to step in more than once just to keep things from going completely off the rails.

This was easily one of the most technical and one of the most difficult witnesses we have seen so far,

and you could see it wearing on Karen's lawyer. The frustration was building,

and it showed. So let's start from the top. The day started with a key ruling from Judge Kenone,

and it set the tone pretty much right away. She ruled that Dr. Welcher is allowed to tell the jury

that the damage to Karen Reed's Lexus

and the injuries on John O'Keefe's body are consistent with someone being hit by a Lexus SUV

just like Karen's. But here's what he can't say, that it was Karen Reed's car that hit John O'Keefe. After the judge gave the green light

for that, Welcher stayed on the stand, still under direct, still with special prosecutor Hank

Brennan. And right out of the gate, Brennan teed up the taillight of Karen's SUV.

Dr. Welcher told the jury, there are two ways that that

tail light could have broken. Either somebody chucked a glass at the back of the SUV or

John O'Keefe's arm hit it. And according to Welcher, it was the arm. He said the damage lines up, especially with that deep gash on John O'Keefe's arm.

In his words, this didn't look like broken glass from a party.

It looked like impact trauma from a person.

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