If Christians All Believe the Bible, Why Do They Disagree? with Gavin Ortlund

Knowing Faith

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🗓️ 16 October 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Gavin Ortlund to have a conversation about why Christians have disagreements and how we can engage in disagreements biblically.

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0:00.0	This is Kyle Worley, and I'm joined by my co-host Jen Wilkin and J.T. English.
0:12.4	And today we are also joined by Dr. Gavin Ortland. Gavin runs the YouTube channel Truth Unites,
0:18.0	which seeks to promote gospel assurance through theological depth.
0:21.5	He is the author of a number of books, including but not limited to why God makes sense in a world
0:27.2	that doesn't, what it means to be Protestant, and the art of disagreeing. Gavin, welcome back
0:33.9	to knowing faith. Second time for you, man. Yeah, excited to be back.
0:37.6	Thanks for having me.
0:38.3	I've been looking forward to this.
0:39.3	Well, we don't have a jacket for a repeat customer. You know, there's not like some sort of... We should do one for like a fifth time on or something like that. If we did, it would be in bad taste. It would be something ill-fitting and weird, so... It's true. Well, we did present Patrick Shriner at the Gospel Coalition this year with a shirt that had all of our faces on it.
0:56.6	And he's told me that he loves him. Well, we did present Patrick Shriner at the Gospel Coalition this year with a shirt that had all of our faces on it.
0:56.7	And he's told me that he loves it. And he wears it. He wears it all the time. So we can get one for Gavin as well.
1:03.3	Hey, Gavin, this whole season, we are dealing with tricky topics and questions. And the goal is not hot takes. I know that's something you're very passionate about. We want to be more
1:11.4	light than heat when it comes to these tricky questions. But just about every episode this season is
1:17.6	something that Jen J.T. and I have maybe had offline conversation about as friends and as theological
1:22.7	dialogue partners, but never like on recording for publication. And we wanted to have you on because you have given
1:31.0	a lot of time to writing and talking and thinking about what it means to balance both conviction
1:36.9	and charity in theological and apologetic dialogue. And you've written a book with a good book
1:42.6	company called The Art of Disagreeing.
1:44.9	And so, Gavin, let's start just with like a very broad version of this question. And I actually
1:50.6	think it's a really honest and natural question, the deeper that a maturing Christian goes into,
1:58.5	I don't know, the conversation of big ideas in Christian communities.
2:02.6	If all Christians have the Bible and believe the Bible, why do Christians disagree with
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