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Toronto Burke, Dr. Brunei Brown.

Welcome to the Daily Social Distance Show.

Thank you. Thank you for having us.

It is very seldom that I have two guests simultaneously on the show.

It is also very rare that I have two guests who I hold in such high regard at the same time on the show.

Toronto Burke, many people are familiar with you as the founder of the Me Too Movement and Time Person of the Year.

Dr. Brunei Brown, many people are familiar with your work through your podcasts or one of your five New York Times best sellers

where you talk about everything trauma-related, childhood-related, life-related.

So thank you both of you for joining me on the show.

Because you've come here with a really interesting project where you've worked together to compile an anthology,

a collection of essays that gives us insight into trauma and how it affects people throughout their lives,

specifically black people living in the present day.

And before we get to that, can I just say congratulations on proving something that a lot of people don't realize you can do in America

and that is have a bone and bread in New Yorker work with a proud Texan.

I didn't know that was possible. Congratulations, ladies.

That was the biggest hurdle of them all.

Exactly.

So talk me through this. How did this even come to be?

How do you begin a journey where you say, you know what, we're going to get together,

combine our shared experiences with people and create a book that is going to help people

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