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Ibram Kendi Reflects On Anti-Racism — And Wants You To Do It Too

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🗓️ 24 October 2020

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Author and renowned scholar Ibram Kendi's new book asks readers to examine their own relationship with race. NPR's Eric Deggans spoke with him about it.

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0:00.0

Ibrahim X. Kendi says he can't remember the first time he saw the infamous video of George Floyd

0:06.1

dying while gasping for breath beneath a white policeman's knee. I don't even remember

0:11.7

sort of where I was and because I feel like I was almost pulled into this tornado. You don't

0:17.9

write at that time. That's because Kendi already a respected authority on systemic racism in America

0:24.1

thanks to his books How to Be an Anti-Racist and Stamped From The Beginning was almost

0:28.8

immediately pulled into a whirlwind of commentary and public contemplation. While some people have

0:34.7

been able to mourn or process the personal and collective traumas in private, Kendi said he didn't

0:39.3

believe he had the option to feel burnout. He's a big basketball fan. You can't really get tired

0:45.3

during the NBA finals and for those of us who are doing racial justice work, you know, these last

0:52.2

five months, it's almost like we've been in the NBA finals, you know, the whole time. As a response,

0:58.2

Kendi has created a new companion book, Be Anti-Racist, a journal for awareness, reflection,

1:03.7

and action. We talked about it for this episode of Life Kit. Filled with 150 questions, prompts,

1:10.0

and quotes from how to be an anti-racist with room for readers to write down answers and thoughts,

1:15.3

the book encourages others to take their own journey towards anti-racism. Stick around to the end

1:21.1

for an opportunity to meditate on some of the book's ideas prompted by questions from the text

1:26.4

asked by Dr. Kendi himself.

1:30.6

I'm Eric DeGun's MPR's TV critic, and I cover a lot of stories about the intersection of race,

1:36.4

media, and society. So I was eager to speak with Kendi about why he created this new book,

1:42.3

how he's weathered the delusional of attention, and what he's learned from standing at the center

1:46.4

of such a massive civil rights reckoning. And so now you have this book, Be Anti-Racist. Your

1:54.4

earlier book was How to Be Anti-Racist. What's the difference between the two, and why do you feel

2:02.0

the need to create this sort of companion piece to a book that people were already turning to to

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