Hello and welcome to another episode of IWave with Jamila Jamil, a podcast against Shame.

I hope you're well. I'm so excited always to be able to sit down with Celeste, Bloody Barber, because she's so funny.

And mostly, she's so real. Often when she's on this podcast, she's giving us glimpses of her brilliant, genius, hilarious mind, but she's also just so deeply authentic in a way that you can't really find from anyone anywhere near as famous as she is.

And I think the reason that people have stuck with her for so long and they'd love her.

They'd ride at dawn for Celeste Barber, is because she, her relatability wasn't

an act, it's real, she's really here for all of us, and she shows us the light and the dark,

and she didn't have to. She could have just been a very silly Instagram influencer and

comedian, and she was smashing it, but she made a choice to just

open up about her life. And both times she's been on this podcast, she's done exactly that.

Last time she was on, she was talking to me about the difficulty of marriage and staying together

for a long time and her struggles with her mental health and ADHD.

And this time we're talking about, you know, where she's at now several years later and depression and how you pull yourself out and how you struggle with the idea of,

I've been told I'm supposed to be super successful and that the dream involves, quote, unquote, having it all.

But does anyone really have it all?

And does that feel good?

Does that feel like anything at all other than exhausting and overwhelming?

And I think a lot of us have been waking up over the last few years as to the lie of quote-unquote having it

all. We talk about the choice to have the bravery to say, maybe having it all means doing a bit

less and spending a bit more meaningful time with the people that I love and living

at my own pace. We talk about rejection. We talk about the ups and downs of being a woman. We talk

about the ups and downs of the expectations of being a mum and being a business owner, all sorts of

things. It's just a chat that I think truly anyone will find a bit of themselves in. And so it's just a chat that I think or truly anyone will find a bit of themselves in

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