"I Treat Psychopaths"- This is What They Tell Me About How They Hunt & Choose You... PT 2
Women of Impact
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🗓️ 21 May 2026
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Part 2
If you’ve ever doubted your intuition (or stayed silent because you feared no one would believe you) part two is your wakeup call. Dr. Leslie Dobson is back, and we’re going even deeper into the psychology of predators, the chilling reality of institutional betrayal, and the step-by-step ways you can rebuild your confidence and protect yourself after trauma. We talk through what it really takes to keep yourself AND your loved ones safe, how to recognize when you’re being groomed or manipulated (even inside seemingly safe relationships), and why women HAVE to put themselves first: No apologies, no justifications.
Leslie's stories will haunt you, but her strategies will empower you. We’re not here for fear, we’re here for the truth, the tactics, and the unapologetic confidence every woman deserves. From the darkest corners of the web to the everyday power moves you need as a woman in this world, this is the real talk your future self will thank you for.
SHOWNOTES
- Navigating Dangerous Encounters & Defusing Command Hallucinations
- Connection as a Weapon: How Psychopaths Mirror Your Empathy
- Stepping Up and Owning the Room: Defying Learned Helplessness
- Why Female Psychopaths Are Even Scarier (and Harder to Spot)
- The Epstein, Maxwell, and Institutional Grooming Playbook
- Uncovering the “R*pe Prison”: Systems That Protect Predators
- The Dark Web, Betrayal, and How Husbands Hide Double Lives
- The Power of Baselining, and How to Spot Subtle Shifts in People Around You
- Can Sexual Deviance Evolve Over Time?
- The Human Capacity for Evil (and How to Own Your Darkness)
- What Makes One Psychopath Kill and Another Manipulate Millions
- Rebuilding Confidence: From Physical Tools to Emotional Healing
- Overcoming Trauma and Finding Your Support Team
- How to Trust Again After Seeing the Worst in Humanity
- When No One Believes You: Finding Your Voice and Re-educating Your Circle
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back ladies to Women of Impact. If you thought part 1 was a wild ride through the mind of a minute later, then you have no idea what's coming up in part 2. Yep, you heard the stories you heard the manipulation, the rule games predator's play, and why even the most trained minds get the line-sided. But it's not enough to just sense the danger right, the question actually now becomes, how do you actually fight back, trust yourself and reclaim your damn power? Well this is a part that no one actually talks about, it's about confronting the messy ugly reality of trust, betrayal, survival, and what happens when the word expects you to just get over it? Well Dr Leslie Dobson and I are going all in and it's about to get damn war. In part two, we talk about how to spot the moment a predator flips into a threat and what to do when your safety feels shaky even when it's someone you trust. We then go into the terrifying truth about why women psychopaths are even more dangerous and harder to spot than men. Guys this was crazy, I had no idea but it makes total sense so stay tuned for that one. Then we talk about the shocking, never before told details of the stories of Galein Maxwell Epstein Diddy and what institutional grooming actually looks like in real life. So if you are just done being polite at the expense of your intuition and you are ready to fricking walk through this world with the force of damn nature that you know that you can be. We're let's get into part two right now, right here on Women of Impact. Okay, tell me what the hell, women prisons and women psychopaths are scarier than men's. I still have name ears. Dude, when I heard you say this, I was like, wait, what? I have to ask you so many questions. That shocked me, but enlighten me on why it's scary. Well, I think when you're in a mix of people, you don't know the crimes they've committed, you don't know their cognitive capacity, substance use, psychosis, all this. You don't know. The women still were able to own the room. These women went into it like, I am powerful, I will get what I want, I will do what I want, and I know exactly the nuanced way to scare the fucking shit out of you. I will claw your face if I have to. They were so much smarter and diabolical than the men. The men were so much more obvious to track. Oh really? Say more about that. I learned over time, like I can look at a group of people and know the crime that they've committed or the crime they would, right? If I'm thinking about men, I can't do that with women. I can't do that. Women are tricky. I mean, I guess we all. Women are so tricky. We're so layered. We have so much going on at once. I'll turn that into the criminal mind. Turn that into a woman who's a psychopath who wants to take advantage of you. You can't stop that. It's fucking amazing. I mean, it's 1% of the CEOs and politicians in this world, right? But it's dangerous when it comes to the criminal aspect of it. So, are they just more cunning? Is that it? Or they just more in your face, I will scratch the fucking life out of you. They're subtle, they're cunning, they're more shocking, they're more impulsive when they want to be. But they read your cues better and they hit you harder with exactly what's going to really gut you. And I think with men, they don't know how to read women. So there's a limit to how much they can manipulate a woman. They're mimicking us to learn from us when women are already us. So now what they're doing is they're learning how to one up you. It's an entirely different threat. Do you have an example? When I was working in DC, I was in one of the Jails in DC and I was doing incompetency to San trialrial evaluations. So, people would get arrested and the lawyers would be like, I can't even talk to my client because I don't know what's going on here as a drug. And so, I would go down to the tank where all these people were being held. And you've got the men jacking off and you've got the men screaming at you. And, you know, just, it's always sexually oriented, you know, power. And then the women were just quiet and they would just stare and then they would just grab. They would just grab your hair or they would just scream at you something or they would just pull you in with these niceties and then scare you. The men were really obvious. They all kind of had similar patterns. The women were really erratic. Wow, okay. So now actually help me think through the Galein Maxwell and the Epstein stuff, because I've spoken about this a lot. I absolutely would have got trapped by Galein. So as we're talking about these manipulative psychopaths, talk to me about the power that probably Galaine had, the Epstein wouldn't have been able to do by himself. I think a significant amount of power, which is why she's not registered as a federal sex offender anymore, and she was moved to basically a clubhouse prism. Do that piss me off so much. Right. She has probably logged more information in her mind alone, but she probably also has quite a masterful plan of layered blackmail that is available to her. And there's a reason people have treated her so carefully. Right? She has probably taken Epstein times a hundred with from her childhood and her connections, her training. She has learned to be a diabolical, likely psychopathic, dangerous individual. That's why it's going to also do you think she's officially a psychopath? She has all of the traits of being a psychopath. And I don't care where you lie politically. This is bipartisan. This is international, right? And she maintained a power play move throughout that entire scheme. And she still is. She had the ability to manipulate people to help her find individuals to bring children to bring teenagers to bring. But then she also made them trust her, which we read in the journals and the files. They trusted her. They said it was always worse when Glean wasn't there. Glean's the one fucking doing it. She's the one setting it up. So now we have what Stockholm syndrome, that's next layer diabolical. I think it seems like actually, that is next layer, but a lot of women will say that also about their partners. Is that he makes me feel safe sometimes, and other times he's the one that I absolutely fear. Right, and I think that's the cycle of domestic violence, just so clearly playing out. An individual can hurt you and harm you. But if we follow up with the love bombing, the gift giving, the compliments, and with Golan, it was the validation, the extra time alone with her, getting to go get a massage, going to do special things, maybe shopping, going on a trip to recruit other people. She had all these kind of special moments with the girls, and they looked forward to them. That was then their win. Right? This starts subtle. Maybe it's just invalidation. Maybe it's just a shitty comment. But it moves to physical violence. It moves to your sleeping and he starts to have sex with you anyways. He doesn't care if you don't want it. It moves to strangulation, which is the number one domestic violence factor that tells me he's going to kill you. And then he kills you. Do you think a lot of the issues that we have when it does come to potentially being with someone a fairest is that we keep minimizing their acts to maintain the norm and that actually is part of the psychopath's trap? I would say the chicken before the egg. Oh, so I would say he knows you're going to minimize and he's going to play into that. And the moment you find intuition, the moment you find your own validation, he's going to gasp like you and he's going to shove that back down. Psychopathic people and narcissistic people have different brain structures. They like to play, they like to hurt. It gets their rocks off more than anything else. There's a reason serial killers keep trophies, because if you can sit there and smell the panties of the woman that you killed, and I say panties, because that's the word that they use, you're back in the moment so sincerely, it's almost like you're doing it again. That's a trophy. And we have an everyday relationships partners are keeping trophies. Oh, in what sense? It may be a memory, it may be a pattern, it may be a meal you cook after a cycle of violence, but there's something that he likes that brings them back to the moment of simulation keeps the cycle going. All right, stay with me because up next is the kind of red flag story that will haunt you but actually wake you up. What goes down with psychopaths whether they're men or women and the invisible way powerful people protect each other? Stay tuned. I write my homie things, we're sticking around now, let's just dive right back in. Going back to the Epstein's and Maxwell, you talk about institutional grooming and I've got a quote of your predecessors, don't find victims first, they find systems, roles and power and then they use the power to seek out their victims. So when it comes to these powerful people in these somewhat cult-like systems where they've been able to manipulate everybody around you, you've got Diddy, right, that even when people are seeing Cass is being in the fuck out of, no one's speaking up, no one's saying anything, in fact they're taking money to hide the video. Obviously all the Epstein stuff, the amount of people that fucking stayed quiet is insane. So when I think about the systems that you get trapped in, |
| 10:27.4 | talk to me about that and how a true like, |
| 10:30.2 | mastermind psychopath can create these cycles |
| 10:33.5 | because we may believe that's never gonna happen to me, |
| 10:37.1 | but tell that to Cassie, tell that to all the other victims |
| 10:40.0 | of a junior Dufrein, all those people, |
| 10:41.6 | the literally thought this would never happen to them. |
| 11:27.8 | It only takes one person to come forward and people will follow. And I think the systems make it feel like that's not true. Very simply put. But I've had cases with victims of the Catholic Church, Jehovah's Witnesses, multiple schools around the country. I helped close FCI Dublin prison in Northern California, otherwise known as the rape prison. Oh, what, what, what, I didn't know about this. No one knows about it, and I don't understand why entirely. I mean, I live in California, so tell me about it. Northern California, so it was well known as the rape prison. The guards, the warden, the pastor, they were raping the women, sexually assaulting the women. So it was a female prison? Female prison. Oh shit. They were making the women. You have to go to count when you're in prison. If you don't shut up for count, you could get a 115 violation. You get in a lot of trouble. you go into ad-seg, administrative segregation. And count is what you just stand outside your room in the county? |
| 11:46.8 | Yeah, or you go to a group area. |
| 11:48.4 | Okay, and they count you. |
| 11:49.3 | Sometimes they're... You get in a lot of trouble, you go into ad-seg, administrative segregation. And count is what you just stand outside your room in the county? |
| 11:46.8 | Yeah, or you go to a group area. |
| 11:48.4 | Okay, and they count you. |
| 11:49.2 | Sometimes they're going to check you for a contraband if something's missing or something, right? |
| 11:53.9 | It is probably the number one thing you have to do. |
| 11:57.2 | These custody officers would lock the women in their cells and tell them to touch themselves, |
| 12:02.4 | to masturbate, to do oral sex on our cell mate, or I'm not going to unlock and let you out and let you go to count. Oh! Or the guards would have them in the showers, they'd be raping them in the showers, they would hold food from them. So we have this institutional betrayal where now we have the warden, |
| 12:25.2 | the top guy doing it. And then there's a special officer in every prison who you should be able to report this to who then takes it to an outside entity, like HR. He was doing it too. Oh shit. So how do we finally get through? Yeah, because I was gonna believe the women. You'd be like, we were like, Iic. We were saying that about the warden. I hate to say, I wouldn't believe them. |
| 12:45.4 | We get this young naive psychology intern. And she's like, what the fuck is going on here? And she starts telling. Wow, because the inmates were telling her. And that's what... And you have to believe in them. Even as I evaluated all of these women, because they were all moved to different prisons |
| 13:07.0 | or somewhere like let out early. |
| 13:08.7 | Yes. |
| 13:09.5 | Even as... And even as I evaluated all of these women, because they were all moved to different prisons or somewhere like let out early, even as I evaluated them at different prisons, right when they were about to tell me names the calls would drop. So it's still happening, but now we just have a little more accountability. That prison was closed. They are all in prison, the guards. |
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