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I Took Down The Mafia As An FBI Agent — Here's How I Did It | Seamus McElearney

Locked In with Ian Bick

Ian Bick

Society & Culture

4.8743 Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2026

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

Seamus McElearney spent years as an FBI agent doing what nobody had done in over a hundred years — he flipped a made man inside the DeCavalcante crime family. The same family the world knows as the real life inspiration behind The Sopranos. In this episode of Locked In with Ian Bick, Seamus breaks down exactly how he did it and what happened next. What followed was one of the most remarkable chain reactions in FBI history — flipping one mobster led to three more cooperating witnesses, then a captain, then an acting boss. By the end Seamus and his team had solved eleven murders, convicted seventy one defendants and completely dismantled the DeCavalcante crime family. He also led the takedown of the Colombo and Bonanno families — arresting 120 members and associates including the top leadership of both organizations. _____________________________________________ #TheSopranos #FBI #organizedcrime _____________________________________________ Connect with Seamus McElearney: Buy His Book: https://www.amazon.com/Flipping-Capo-Dismantled-Real-Sopranos/dp/B0DWHS2YVS LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seamus-mcelearney _____________________________________________ Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ _____________________________________________ Shop Locked In Merch: http://www.ianbick.com/shop _____________________________________________ Timestamps: 00:00 The FBI Agent Who Took Down the Real Sopranos — Seamus's Story 00:20 Growing Up in the Bronx — How It Shaped the Agent He Became 02:56 The Education and Early Career That Led Him to the FBI 04:34 What FBI Selection and Training Actually Look Like From the Inside 07:58 Back to New York — Learning the City and His First Real Cases 09:21 His First Organized Crime Assignment and What It Really Looked Like 10:58 How It All Started — The Robbery and Murder That Opened the Case 13:03 The Witnesses Who Came Forward and How He Built the Investigation 15:39 Wiretaps Decoding Mob Communication and Recording the Evidence That Changed Everything 20:24 When the Arrests Began — Taking Down an Entire Crime Family 21:26 How He Built Enough Trust to Flip an Actual Made Man 25:36 The Domino Effect — How One Cooperator Brought Down an Entire Organization 30:33 Surveillance Searches and the Murders They Uncovered Along the Way 36:51 Preparing for Trial — The Challenge of Actually Convicting Mob Members 45:01 Inside the Courtroom — What It's Really Like Prosecuting Organized Crime 53:49 How Mob Investigation Tactics Have Evolved and Why It Matters 01:03:38 The Major Busts and How Technology Changed Organized Crime Forever 01:10:11 Why the Mob Never Dies and How Modern Gambling Keeps Them Alive 01:13:41 The Real Mob vs The Sopranos — What the Show Got Right and Wrong 01:20:14 Life After the Mob — Gangs Fraud and What Came Next 01:24:09 Retirement and the Private Sector — What Life Looks Like After the FBI 01:26:47 The Lessons From a Career Spent Taking Down America's Most Dangerous Criminals 01:32:17 The Ethics of Using Cooperators — Where the Line Really Is 01:33:02 Why Mob Cooperators Are Going Public and What It Means 01:33:37 Final Thoughts and His Book — What He Wants You to Know _____________________________________________ To advertise on the show, contact sales@advertisecast.com or visit https://advertising.libsyn.com/LockedInWithIanBicka Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

My guest today was the FBI agent who did something no law enforcement officer had ever done in the 100-year history of the Decovalcante crime family.

0:09.2

He flipped one of their made men and brought the whole thing down.

0:12.7

His name is Seamus McAleurney, and this is how he took down the real Sopranos.

0:20.4

I grew up while I was born in the city, raised in the Bronx, and then I moved to Westchester.

0:26.3

But throughout high school, I was in the Bronx.

0:30.3

What was your upbringing like?

0:32.1

Well, the area I grew up and you kind of grew up really quickly.

0:35.4

You know, my parents came from Ireland.

0:37.3

So they

0:37.7

actually came to the States at a very young age. My mom, I think, came when she was 17. My dad

0:43.7

came when he was 20. They met in the Bronx next to Manhattan College. There was an Irish establishment

0:49.7

over there called Gallic Park, I believe. And that's where they met. So we grew up pretty close to

0:57.8

there. It was called Bamer J Avenue. Back then, you were known by your church, and the church was St. Brendan's.

1:03.5

And I had a lot of people that went the wrong way, a lot of people that went the right way. So you grew up

1:08.0

rather fast. Where did you sit in the middle of that?

1:12.3

My parents, they didn't go to high school or college, but they always try to just tell us to do

1:16.2

the right thing. So I'm not saying I was an angel, but I never I never got arrested or I had got

1:22.6

into any sorts of trouble. You know, I always had the common sense not to get into trouble.

1:26.7

But I saw a lot of friends get into trouble. Where I grew up, I always had the common sense not to get into trouble. But I saw a lot of friends

1:27.9

get into trouble. Where I grew up, I had people get stabbed, people get shot and killed, people

1:34.2

commit like suicide as well. Excuse me. So it was rarely, you grew up really, really, really quick.

1:43.8

When you grew up there, it's like one of the things I can remember when I was young

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