Oh, stop.

I hate the story.

No, I need to hear it.

I need to hear it.

Yes, it's a beautiful.

It's hilarious.

You told it.

I walked in and he had this whole theory behind this poster that like rock and roll is a bunch of down beats.

But ska is all like upbeats.

And so that's why this album is called upbeats and down beats. And so that's why this album is called upbeats and down beats.

And I said, and I'm looking at the post and I go, no, it's called upbeats and beat

downs.

And he just goes, what?

I just, I'd always read it as that because probably, you know, ADAG just, maybe a little

bit of umptusaxia for a bit.

Who knows?

Hello? the age, maybe a little bit of umptuslexia for a bit. Who knows? Hello, friends. This is Luke, your buddy, your pal. I'm so excited for you to hear this episode.

This week, once again, welcome back to the podcast. Katie Ruvulcaba, I really hope I pronounce that right. She's a brand new podcast on

included in with her Twitch stream. It's called Parassocial Anxiety. It's super good. It is fascinating.

It's about basically sometimes the relationship between a creator and their fan and how,

what happens if it goes wrong. it's just it's a fascinating

podcast we have a phenomenal conversation we chat it for about two hours i'm not sure what the

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