This episode is brought to you by Danor, maker of superior crafty boots for people who

embrace the freedom to do things their way.

People like Lisa Wolfe, a backcountry guide and Lama trainer.

They've got these split toes with pads like dogs, these big jackrabbit ears, some of them

have these big fuzzy tails, you know, God took all the spare parts and put them together

and guess what he got?

Lama.

Lisa works at the Burns Lama Trailblazers Ranch in southeastern Oregon.

So you've got canyons and cliffs and rock everywhere, it's wide open and you can go anywhere

you want.

For me that's a kind of freedom that I really enjoy.

She trains pack llamas, shaping these stubborn but capable animals into reliable partners

for backcountry exploration in this wild region of the Pacific Northwest.

Lama's are highly social beings.

They all have their different personalities and I have to learn how to work with and teach

each personality.

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From outside magazine, this is the outside podcast.

One of the big reasons that people spend time outside is that it gives us a chance to

think.

When we venture out our doors to hike or ride or run or just wander and explore, there's

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