Honestly, maybe this is just what Shilpa and I needed, just like,

feel like the warmth of like validation, you know,

just like people thinking were interesting.

Listen, Christopher, speak for yourself. Hey there, listeners, future callers, and cooking enthusiasts.

Welcome to Dinner S.O.S.

The show where we help you Save Dinner, or whatever you're cooking.

I'm Chris Morocco, food director of Bone Appetit and Epicureus.

This week, I got a call from sisters, Isie and Nina.

We are twins. We are good friends. We love to cook together.

Nina wanted me to tell you that she's a good cook. And I love to bake and I feel like I've kind of embarked on a journey where I want to get her to bake and like enjoy baking with me or like just as much as I do.

But here's the problem. While Nina is a confident cook.

I feel really, really not confident baking. I overthink a lot, which is the opposite of how I cook,

which is like very intuitively, and with grace, if you but when I bake I get really flustered.

The last baking project that Nina attempted turned out to be a bit of a disaster.

She was trying to bake Nijela Lawson's honey pie.

When she and Ise baked it together,

it turned out great.

But when Nina attempted it again,

on her own, she ended up with a melted shapeless mess.

I read the instruction that said, take the pie shell and put it on a rimmed baking sheet.

And I guess what really happened was I didn't know

if the pie shell was the pastry itself or if the pie shell was the thing that the pie crust sits in,

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