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Hi, I'm Otto.

Welcome to Evan Sarah's podcast.

Let's just pray.

We're going to pray.

We're going to start this episode.

We're going to pray that my sound is... We're praying? Well, to me, it's when the sound is off, it's very off-putting. And I feel like we can't let our audience down with my sound. So let's just pray that my sound is good. I'm in New York. Aaron's in New York. We're, of course, staying, you know, nowhere near each other.

I mean, your voice is always like nails on a chalkboard for me. It doesn't really sound

different one way or the other.

Good. That's so kind in this morning. That's so kind. And to think I was going to give you a

compliment, to think I was going to be like, wow, you actually look pretty decent at first thing in the morning. I'm looking at me and I'm looking at you and I'm thinking... Wait, I like keep changing my hair because I feel like it looks so rancid.

I'm going to be honest. I like kind of... No, I don't want to be honest.

Well, now you've got to be honest.

I'm secretly harboring, like, a small cold. Like, it's a secret that I'm keeping. Yeah. It's amazing. You were really very affectionate and touchy-feely yesterday. So it's like... I know, but it's... That's what... It was a secret. I couldn't get it away. I know, but when you're harboring a secret of like, oh, maybe I'm sick and maybe I will get you sick, you kind of keep your distance, but you were extra aggressive with the touchy.

Here's the thing, not with you, with your children, obviously. I've been trying this thing the last few days about mind over matter when it comes to being sick.

A couple people in my life, one being Simon, like he lives in denial of being sick when I'm like, you sound sick. It's like, no, I'm not, I'm not sick. And he swears by this theory that like when you just are like, I won't give it into this. It's not happening. It just kind of like is easier to manage and goes away.

Because, you know, we get that real anxiety when you start to feel a sore throat. It's like, oh my God, my world's imploding, right? So I started feeling that the other day. And I was like, I'm going to test out because, you know, Noah got sick in the Hamptons. And it was very fast for her. Mm-hmm.

And then all of a sudden it was like, I woke up in the middle of the night.

Okay, I think I have a sore throat.

It seems pretty clear that now it was like, I woke up in the middle of the night, okay, I think I have a sore throat.

It seems pretty clear that now it's like swallowing knives. And I just decided, I'm just not going to think about it. I'm going to go about my life and I'm going to pretend like I don't have a sore throat. I'm going to pretend like I'm not getting sick. and I have to be honest with you, it did make it easier. I just lived my life. I was like, I'm not thinking

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