I would never ever ever recommend to anybody to go into this position because it's the most

thankless job you will ever work.

Welcome back to other people's lives.

I'm Joe Sannegado.

I'm Greg Dybeck.

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Now onto today's episode.

On this show we've covered a few prison related topics.

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