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Chris, we're speaking to you before the music,

because after the music we've got an extended interview

with Greta Tunberg.

Oh!

And I should lend you her book, actually,

because even though it's 400 plus pages,

and I can't imagine you've got a lot of time

to read a slightly off topic, 400 page book,

it's a whole series of essays by scientists and activists

and things kind of telling the whole climate change story

with some little essays by her and between,

so you can dip in and out of it.

That sounds good.

I like a little book with little short chapters

that you can sort of feel like you've done the whole thing of

before you put it down and pick it up six months later.

Exactly.

Now let's dip into some of today's political news.

The main topic of which is,

which MP is going to be in the I'm a celebrity jungle?

Indeed.

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