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🗓️ 10 September 2025
⏱️ 77 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Everybody, welcome to the show. Boy, oh boy. Wow. We've got a show today. We just finished it. So I'm just |
| 0:20.0 | kind of sitting here with my hands on my hips. |
| 0:21.7 | Like, we're going to get into it. |
| 0:25.6 | As you know, because you've downloaded this on your phone. |
| 0:29.6 | We've got Elizabeth Gilbert here today. |
| 0:31.7 | And it's one of the more powerful conversations I can remember having, |
| 0:36.3 | which we'll get to in just a minute. |
| 0:39.4 | I actually have a question for you that I thought about when reading this book, about your own book. |
| 0:48.6 | As an author, when you are digging through trauma and loss and your own failures and struggles, |
| 1:04.4 | what is the motivation behind revealing so much? |
| 1:10.0 | And also, how do you balance out knowing that the more you reveal, |
| 1:17.1 | the more gnarly it gets, the more successful it will be? |
| 1:25.1 | Like, it's such a strange thing. |
| 1:29.6 | It made me think there's a Ava Brothers documentary, and at the very end, they're recording |
| 1:35.8 | No Hard Feelings, which was a song that they wrestled with for years before they recorded. |
| 1:43.7 | And it's about your own death. |
| 1:47.3 | And at the end, Rick Rubin and the other guys in the room were like, home run. |
| 1:54.0 | Like, y'all knock that out of the park. |
| 1:56.0 | That's going to be a huge hit. |
| 1:59.1 | And the brothers go outside and they're like, except the elephant in the room is like, |
| 2:04.4 | we're being congratulated for our suffering and monetizing it. |
| 2:12.0 | So do you think about those things when you're in it and writing it and deciding what to reveal, |
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