Fascinating the JFK stuff. We'll be speaking about this the next 200 years. I feel it will not go away and I don't feel any answers will be satisfactory. I think we invent time trouble. Maybe that'll put it's bad for sure.

I'm just going to bring in my next guest. Now Michelle, welcome to Outward Unleashed. How are you?

Hi, good. Can you hear me okay? Yes, quite loud actually. So I'm going to turn it down. I'm a very loud human. If there is an option of turning it down slightly, that'd be really.

Let me see. Or maybe I don't know if our fearless producer Ash may be able to work some voodoo in the back.

I call my. I have a sound person, but I'm on my computers in the shop so I'm on some of my computer. Let me see.

Here we go. You see how we get on.

Turn this down. Is that better?

Possibly. Let's let's see how we get on anyway for sure. I mean, it's better than not being able to hear your isn't surely.

So I mean, Michelle. That's not going to help anyone. Can anyone in the chat? Can you hear me at all, Michelle?

Can you hear me? Can anyone in the. Oh, I'm frozen.

You are frozen. Uh oh. Now you're gone.

Can anyone in the chat hear or see either of us?

Yeah.

I can't see or hear you.

Okay. Somebody said they can hear me, but no visual now. Okay. Now I can see you.

You can see me. Apology. I have no idea what's going on at the gremlins of the tried sabotage. I'll pick you so you can see and hear me and we're all good.

I can. Let me hold on here. I'm going to unplug this and plug it back in real quick because it's you're coming through speaker now, but not through my headphones.

Okay.

Hang on. Let me try this.

Okay. Testing 123.

I can hear and I can hear and see you fine. Can you hear and see me fine?

Now I can. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. Okay. And maybe it goes in the chat. If you could do me the favor of letting me know you can see and hear both of us.

...