We're sitting here, we're going to have a conversation with a good friend of mine, and I would consider him a mentor.

I got to meet him 20 years ago, like in 2000.

And it's not Whisper, by the way, for those of you that don't know Whistfer.

Got my dog Whisper sitting here with us as well, chilling. She just wanted to be on camera.

She likes to be on camera.

So anyway, with that being said, we're just going to have a conversation.

I don't know where it's going to go.

But there's a lot of things that I say.

And anytime I talk, I always use a third-party reference.

I learned a long time ago that a lot of times even,

I think everything is repurposed, right? Like you read books, you listen to speakers,

you listen to different things. But once you start saying it, it becomes your own. But I usually

use whenever I'm on stage or speaking, I'll use a third party reference and I'll say

a mentor of mine told me because I know that there's always some people in the crowd that

just might not like you for some reason.

That's what that.

And so it's not about the messenger.

I always want them to hear the message.

And so the reason I'm saying that to all of you guys is Jerry, his name is Jerry Osteen and he's from Dallas, Texas, I think. But he's one of those individuals that some of my wisdom came from. And one of the most significant things that I actually just said last night, I don't know if you ever remember this or not. But I met Jerry when I was kind of in between.

I had a little bit of success, came off of a little bit of success, and really made a decision

that wasn't very wise at the time to give up, you know, $30,000, $40,000 a month income,

you know, and I let, I guess guess my pride get the best of me.

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