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For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

I’ll Have What She’s Having: Power, Purpose, and Perimenopause with Tamsen Fadal

For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

Jen Hatmaker

Relationships, Society & Culture

4.66.3K Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, we're joined by Emmy Award–winning journalist and fierce midlife advocate, Tamsen Fadal, who has become a trusted voice for women navigating the complex — and often misunderstood — journey of menopause. Through her work and her new book, How to Menopause: The Essential Roadmap to Resilience and Empowerment in Midlife and Beyond, Tamsen is on a mission to rewrite the narrative around aging, helping women feel seen, supported, and empowered. Her book is packed with practical tools, honest storytelling, and a powerful message: this phase of life isn’t something to endure — it’s an opportunity to reinvent, reconnect, and rise. From demanding better healthcare to breaking the silence in the workplace, Tamsen is helping women turn midlife into a movement. In today’s enlightening conversation, we unpack: Whether you’re in the thick of it or just beginning to notice the shifts, this episode will leave you informed, inspired, and ready to take action. Share this episode with a woman you care about! Thought-provoking Quotes:   Resources Mentioned in This Episode:   Guest’s Links: Website - https://www.tamsenfadal.com/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tamsenfadal/ Twitter - https://x.com/TamsenFadal Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/tamsenfadal/ TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@tamsenfadal Substack - https://tamsenfadal.substack.com/ Podcast - https://www.tamsenfadal.com/the-tamsen-show-podcast   Connect with Jen!Jen’s Website - https://jenhatmaker.com/ Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/ Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker   The For the Love Podcast is presented by Audacy.              ● The biggest myths about menopause we need to bust● How to become your own best advocate in the doctor’s office● Why midlife isn’t an ending — it’s a beginning★ “The truth is there are a lot of doctors who, through no fault of their own,  are not informed about menopause. Doctors don't go into this profession not wanting to help, but unfortunately a lot of them, by their own admission, were not trained in medical school. And I think we've got to do something about that one.” – Tamsen Fadal★ “Women are thriving. They're bolder, smarter, wiser, they’re more open about their lives, healthier in a lot of ways, they’re in relationships that they want to be in versus relationships that they felt like they had to be in.  I look at this as a celebration in some ways.” – Tamsen Fadal★ “I really think that we have to start looking at this stage of life in a different way.  Women could celebrate this time in life, what I've been calling the bolden years instead of the golden years, instead of dreading these years.” – Tamsen Fadal★ “If you're dealing with the symptoms of perimenopause and you don't know what's going on, it can be so stressful. You're having heart problems. You feel like you're going crazy. You can't sleep, and now you can't function at work. I wanted women to be able to know what to do. It’s a chaotic time that can feel confusing unless we simplify it.” – Tamsen Fadal★ “It is so nice to feel normal at this stage of life. It is just such a relief to realize not only how many of us there are, but how many solutions exist. We are not helpless and this is not inevitable. Menopause is, but the suffering isn’t.” – Jen Hatmaker➢ How to Menopause: Take Charge of Your Health, Reclaim Your Life, and Feel Even Better than Before by Tamsen Fadal – https://amzn.to/4mIbMx5➢ The M Factor: Shredding the Silence About Menopause – https://themfactorfilm.com/➢ Midi Health - https://www.joinmidi.com/➢ The Men’s Guide to Understanding Menopause – https://www.tamsenfadal.com/mens-guide-to-understanding-menopause To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, welcome to the show.

0:10.2

Welcome back.

0:11.3

Yes.

0:12.8

Oh, my gosh.

0:14.3

So what's been going on?

0:18.7

Hmm.

0:20.0

Anything new in your life this week?

0:22.6

God.

0:23.5

I mean, you are like on the runway for the book launch.

0:28.3

There's that, yes.

0:29.5

You're doing a lot of that already.

0:31.5

That is true.

0:32.4

But then another new thing.

0:34.9

Another new thing.

0:37.0

I had a grand baby. I had a baby on Friday.

0:42.3

You had a baby. Oh my gosh. I don't even know where to start. First of all, when you saw him, he's perfect.

0:50.5

Well, yeah, he's perfect is what happened. We had a perfect baby. And so that was the first plus in the plus column.

0:56.9

And it just couldn't go. It's just nothing could have been better. Nothing.

1:03.0

He's a little bit early. He was actually due on September 11th.

1:07.1

Yeah. I don't know if you remember that. I just remember thinking, what am I going to do?

1:09.7

Like that it, I'm in, what am I going to do? Like,

1:20.3

that it, I'm in, I'm in full throttle, high octane, zero minutes in the day schedule by then.

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