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I'm Greg Dybeck.

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Yeah. And today, I think let's just get right into it.

There's no real small talk around a topic like this.

We have our guests on the line.

And the topic is I like to be hurt during sex.

So can you sort of just give us an explanation of what that really means?

So basically anything involving sex or anything sexual in that realm,

I for me to get pleasure, there has to be some form of pain involved.

That can go from any form of degree and yeah, I mean, it can also be like mental abused

to some sorts, but other than that, there just has to be like a certain form of pain involved.

What's meant, what do you mean by mental abuse?

So I used to be in a relationship where there was mental abuse involved in the like having sex

with physical. So the words that were said to me were very like demeaning and derogatory.

And I got off on that. I've kind of toned it back with the relationship that I'm in now,

but that used to be a very big part. Yeah, it's kind of like a typical like dominant and

submissive type of situation, but on an extreme level. Yeah. So that's what I want to point out,

because you know, you've listened to the show before. So in the email when you reached out,

you were aware that we've touched on BDSM and things like that before. I think even, you know,

humiliation we've talked about. And people have kind of dabbled in the areas of pain or

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