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Witness History

'I just wanted to be white'

Witness History

BBC

Personal Journals, Society & Culture, History

4.51.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 November 2020

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

In the immediate aftermath of World War Two, thousands of children were born to white German women and black American soldiers who were stationed in Allied-occupied Germany. The mixed-race infants were viewed with contempt by many Germans and endured constant abuse and racism. Black activist and author Ika Hügel-Marshall was one of the so-called "occupation babies". She tells Mike Lanchin about the painful struggle to discover her own identity as a result of the racism she experienced growing up black in post-war Germany.

Photo: Ika as a young girl (Courtesy of Ika Hügel-Marshall)

Transcript

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searching and a lot more auction listen on BBC sounds. Hello and welcome to the Witness History Podcast from the BBC World Service

0:39.1

first-hand accounts of events that have shaped our world. I'm Mike Lanchin. Today we're bringing you

0:45.2

the disturbing story of how thousands of children born to black American soldiers

0:50.4

and white German women at the end of World War II went on to endure years of virulence racism in post-war Germany.

0:59.0

I've been hearing from the author Ika Hugo Marshall about her experience of growing up in Germany

1:06.0

as a so-called occupation baby.

1:11.8

When I was a child people would scratch my face with a scrubbing brush to show other children that it wasn't chocolate on my face.

1:22.0

Obviously as a child I couldn't figure out why this was happening to me.

1:28.3

I just wanted to be white, to have the feeling of belonging and be like the others.

1:35.0

Eichahugel Marshall was born in a small town in Bavaria in March of 1947. Her father Eddie had been an African-American

1:46.6

soldier stationed in Germany at the end of World War II. Her mother Katerina was a German woman.

1:53.0

They'd had a secret romance following the lifting of the ban on contact between foreign soldiers and German women.

2:00.0

But while Katerina was still pregnant, Eddie was sent back to the US and never returned.

2:06.0

Alone with her new baby girl, the 21-year-old Katerina married a local man who became Eka's stepfather.

2:17.0

When it comes to my family, I always felt very loved by my mother, but it was different with my stepfather. He never hit me or

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