What you're about to hear is an unscripted one-time couples counseling session.

It contains mature themes and listener discretion is advised.

For the purposes of maintaining confidentiality, names and some identifiable characteristics have been removed.

But their voices and their stories are real.

When we were engaged and when we got married, we made a promise to be parents and you know, to create a family.

For her, she shared with me, she didn't want to have kids until she met me.

And that was really exciting in a great acknowledgement.

I kept in my mind was like, I'm going to do this till I've 45 and then if after 45, I'm not going to be as up for it.

Here's now I'm like heading towards 50.

We got pregnant and we were like sharing also excited and then we found out the embryo didn't form.

So that was really, really disappointing for us.

He wanted to be a father, you know, like since he was a little boy and you know, and he just feels like maybe some regret of marrying an older woman and maybe, you know, it might not work out for us.

I shared with her that I was considering even possibly leaving her to find a woman that would want to have kids with me.

Then I was just like, well, how can we make this happen, you know, in a more creative way.

And then the other day I had this insight where I was like, well, I would be totally supportive if he wanted to have a child with another woman.

Let me repeat to you what I'm hearing and tell me if I'm getting it, okay?

We are together nine years. We are married. We have a strong commitment to each other.

We are at a moment where one of us very much wants to have children or a child.

One of us has realized that that possibility may no longer be the case even though the ones was a shared desire about it.

How can we stay together and honor your need to have a child and your need to no longer have a child?

Exactly. That was exactly it.

A couple comes in with a story and my goal in the first session is to exceed to what extent they can leave with a different story.

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