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I Beg Your Pardon part 6: The MAGA Granny

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Javier Leiva

Society & Culture, True Crime, Technology

4.72.6K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

On January 6th, 2021, Pam Hemphill followed the Proud Boys to the Capitol, got trampled by the mob, was carried out by a police officer named Joe, and recorded every minute of it. The internet called her the MAGA Granny. She did 60 days in federal prison. And then, slowly, she woke up. When Trump issued sweeping pardons for more than 1,500 January 6th defendants, Pam did something almost no one else did. She said no. She filed a formal letter of rejection, returned to the Capitol to apologize to officers in person, received death threats, lost a 12-year relationship, and kept talking anyway. In a series about people who got pardons they didn’t deserve, Pam Hemphill is the one who deserved consideration and walked away from it anyway. You’ve heard about January 6th. You think you know the story. You don’t know it like this. Quick Links •  FBI Affidavit (Case 1:21-cr-00555-RCL): Read the original charging document https://jan6attack.com/DoJ/hemphill-pamela/1469486.pdf •  Pam Hemphill’s Wikipedia Page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_Hemphill •  Pam’s January 6th Testimony (PBS, January 6, 2026): Watch on PBS NewsHour •  Trump’s Truth Social Post (via HuffPost): Read the coverage •  Pam’s Pardon Rejection (NPR): Listen and read on NPR Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

True Story Media

0:07.0

My brother called and said you're on Fox News and they're calling you Mega Granny.

0:20.7

I said, what? I'm on Fox News and they're calling you Mega Granny.

0:23.5

I said, what? I'm on Fox News.

0:29.0

Oh my God, I had a fit. I'm not a Mega Granny.

0:35.2

Oh my God. It was horrible. I was going to ask you about that. How do you feel about that title?

0:37.5

Well, now it's X. Remember that X.

0:42.1

X. But Mega gave me a new name now. It's Pam Tifa.

0:46.3

I'm taking that name. I'll be Pam Tifa.

0:48.5

I kind of like it. It has a ring to it.

1:00.7

Pam Hempel, formerly known as the Maga Granny, stormed the U.S. Capitol building on January 6th, 2021.

1:03.8

Pam Hemp Hill, down here's the Capitol.

1:06.4

She recorded the whole thing. In this clip, Pam is following the proud boys as they marched to the Capitol before the riots began.

1:13.6

Are we going inside? I want to go inside.

1:16.6

No, we're not going inside.

1:17.6

Well, shit, I did in Boise.

1:18.6

I mean, you want to go inside?

1:20.6

I know you.

1:21.6

Are you the proud boys?

1:23.6

Yes.

1:24.6

Today, we're going to follow Pam inside the Capitol building and hear how that day

1:30.5

unfolded from her perspective.

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