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Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Armstrong and Getty.

And now here's Armstrong and Getty. And yet he's Armstrong and Getty.

President Trump applying real pressure on Prime Minister Netanyahu to agree to this deal.

And it really does feel like a potentially game-changing moment.

You've got these indirect talks now underway in Egypt.

Egypt, phase one, the President hopes could be agreed as earlier as this week, would mean a ceasefire,

the release of hostages, and some Palestinian prisoners, and a partial withdrawal of Israeli troops.

The key sticking point is going to be phase two, which calls for Hamas to disarm and relinquish

power. But I think what's really different this time is President Trump's personal engagement

forcing both sides to end this war. I wanted to play that because I continued to be amazed

at the mainstream coverage is fawning over this deal that Trump has put together and having positive noises about it and

presenting it as Trump putting a lot of pressure on Netanyahu and that sort of stuff as opposed

to being as lackey or something, which used to be the narrative.

Right. Yeah. I know this does not describe you, but I get a feel from a lot of the media coverage of this that they still have some level of belief that Hamas is negotiating in good faith, that they think Hamas can be reasoned with.

That they just have some political gripes with Israel, and soon we can have a two-state solution.

Yeah, I was watching David Ignatius of The Washington Post, who's one of your big writers about this sort of thing,

talk about how people need to recognize, Hamas recognizes this is basically the negotiation of their surrender. That's what it is. And because that is what it is.

Right. Yeah. It's refreshing to hear it stated that plainly. Yeah. It's it's either you,

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