It's a pretty intense thing, I'm going to tell you.

But basically, right after we started Logology, my mother passed away.

She had cancer.

So that was like a very troubling time.

And actually, that almost killed a company right away.

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Hello, everyone. My guest today is Doggbert Renew.com. Hello, everyone.

My guest today is Doggoburg Renew.

He spent 12 years programming so far and then finally landed his dream tech job.

He's a great team, great, holiday, good projects.

But after three months, he started getting bored and realized that maybe wasn't the perfect

big after all.

He wanted a bigger challenge.

He had another choice to start his own company.

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