Hello from Washington, I'm Chuck Todd and this is the Chuck

podcast. My guest today are Lakshya Jane and Harrison Lavel. They're both

political scientists,

and I emphasize science and data,

truly trying to put the science in political scientists

at a group called Split Ticket.

It's a new organization that attempts to present electoral data

in a simpler, easier to understand

set of maps and graphics.

I think they do a terrific job and try to be dispassioned about it when it comes to perhaps the outcome they're

hoping for versus the data and letting the data and the visualization speak for themselves.

And frankly, they keep looking for better and better data. I appreciate that effort but before we get started

remember to stick around for another listener question and please remember to submit your questions to the Chuck Toddcast at gmail.com.

So I'm coming to you now obviously we just had the verdict in Hunter Biden and everybody's

racing to try to figure out what it all means.

I think the simplest explanation is think of it the other way,

do the exercises the other way.

What if he had been found not guilty on all charges?

What would the political impact me?

So when you go through that scenario

and you realize guilty on all charges,

this really does undermine this Republican talking

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